Tourney Players: Is X-ball Sideline Coaching Good

[FooTemps]

Coaching in other sports and coaching in paintball are 2 completely 2 different things! I don't get why you are comparing coaching in football and coaching in paintball. When you coach in football, you give them plays and such. A football coach points out problems in technique and how to react to the other team. The coach never needs to point out hidden players.

In paintball, you hide and shoot. A part of paintball relies on stealth. That's why people play snake and such. If you blow stealth out of the water, then why not just make the bunkers transparent?

[ntn4502]

bah sideline coaching sucks, takes the fun out of the game, and makes for extremely harder bunker moves

[tony3]

i think its fine, also, the players dont here it as much as you think, one game at chicago open, kenny klamper was playing back and a guy went to bunker him and everyone was yelling but kenny didnt turn around

[Johnny_Reb]

kenny klamper was playing back and a guy went to bunker him and everyone was yelling but kenny didnt turn around

Foo, ntn cmon now, would YOU actually listen to ppl on the sidelines? You dont know if you can trust them. Id really prefer the fans to be involved in the game instead of just standing bored on the sidelines. If you want paintball to grow, your going to have to give the spectaters some freedom. If you didnt know anythign about paintball and went to watch a game where ppl made you stay totally silent would you have any fun? No.

Sideline coaching may seem liek a bad idea at first but give it some time and itll work out. Look at speedball, ppl were skeptical of it at first and didnt know if they would like it or not but then gave it some time and now its very popular. In order to get paintball on TV were going to have to give em a reason to put it on there. If you were skipping threw the channels and saw a paintball game where the spectaters were standing silent on the sideline would this seem appealing to you?No.Network owners wont put paintball on TV if they see spectaters like that, they wanna see the specs screaming, showing that ppl like to watch it. If you want paintball to grow youll have to accept sidelien coaching.

[ezrunner]

well

From experience guys, here we go:

The people on the sideline you tune out. It isn't a real issue.

The people you want to listen to you can with no problem, it is a totally different game. XBall is a totally diff game anyway cause the goal is to shoot 5 guys and only loose 4 doing it.

The way you play xball is more aggressive than std 5man. This is totally the place to do sidelining.

The coaching issue is a huge thing. This refers to the one coach per team on the sideline inside the netting.

The coach adds another element to your break and the end game. That is the biggest effect I see him having, and some better coaches can layout "plays" to call and have the team execute right then.

X-Ball is not regulation centerflag, it is a new format. I really liked it and hope to play it in the future.

-rob

[Nobody077]

The side-line reffing is what makes it X-Ball. I Watched my first X-ball game at the NPPL in Vegas, the sideline action realy made the game intresting, it caused the players to pickup the pace of the game, without the sideline action it would be another format of players trying to get up by one point and wait out the clock.
For the people that dont like the Idea of sideline coaching, just dont play X-ball. You can jump back 5-10 years of formats, before Sup-Air and speedball, and play yourself some Woods-ball, there coaching is not allowed and will get you eleminated

[JEDI]

Originally posted by Nobody077

For the people that dont like the Idea of sideline coaching, just dont play X-ball. You can jump back 5-10 years of formats, before Sup-Air and speedball, and play yourself some Woods-ball, there coaching is not allowed and will get you eleminated

Duh! Thats retarded. Not liking sideline coaching does not immediately equal playing in the woods. Disagreeing with a simple aspect of the game, doesn't put you back 5-10 years.

Obviously this issue is split. I for one just think that speed ball was based on certain principles of the game. Its like the people that argue playing "hopper only" speed ball is the same as all-the-paint-you-can-carry. Sure you can change one or two rules of the game, but it begins to hinder the true basis of speed ball.

[kosmo]

As far as sideline action goes, its not like football. Its a lot like basketball though. Like the coach/crowd yelling for Wally Sczerbiak to wake the freak up cuz he just let Iverson get open outside the arc and theyre gonna pass to him. Sure, hes gonna hear them yelling but its still up to him to 1) utilize the information thats given to him and 2) have enough skill to be able to stop the move anyway. Just because you know someones flanking you doesnt mean you got the skills to stop it. And thats what X ball is about. Having the smarts and the skills to adapt to what the other guy is doing. Theyre gonna get you sometimes and youre gonna get them. Its about being a better shot. Making better moves. And most importantly adapting to whatever is thrown at you series after series.

[bunkermaster10]

sideline coaching

I think if we want it to be a sport we might have to let it happen. Look at other sports like basketball coaches yell out into the court and giving them heads up constantly. I totally understand when yall say its BS, cause I think so to, but I think we might just have to let it go and let it be like other sports.

EDIT: I didn't notice the post above me. Thats what I'm thinking also.

[Nobody077]

Jedi maby you dident understand my point. Im not saying if you dont like the sideline stuff you can only play woodsball. My point is that things change as time goes on, for the people that dont like it they dont have to play it, I have been playing for about 10 years and have seen many changes in the sport. First the electro guns, boy did people cry about those, but they are here to stay, then speed ball was introduced, many people said it was a noskill type of paint ball and only for TV(back when ESPN showed paintball), then Sup-Air came with the same ideas of this wont work for every day play. If people dont like one version of our Sport they have many other formats to play, crying about not likeing a format wont stop it from getting played, just as a new format wont totaly replace an older one. What ever a players idea of "True" paintball is they have the choice to play it and only it if they want, they need to stop crying about not likeing someone elses choice of fun.

[Paintchucker]

Originally posted by Nobody077
For the people that dont like the Idea of sideline coaching, just dont play X-ball. You can jump back 5-10 years of formats, before Sup-Air and speedball, and play yourself some Woods-ball, there coaching is not allowed and will get you eleminated

Ease on back there newbie! Back in the day, (Feb.1995 to be exact), while we played in the woods for the most part, we already had sideline coaching and spectator interaction at the Indoor National Championships. It adds a new dimension to the game.

Our sixth player was the coach, positioned in the bleachers so everyone could see with a bright orange vest. He called out the opposing positions and called plays. And then we sent a couple "distractors" down to the other side to add to the confusion.

Since the rules are the same for both sides, it is still an equal playing field. As Darwin said "Adapt or die..."