MECHANICAL ONLY TOURNAMENT: Choose your weapon!

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  • JEDI
    We beat pump players
    • Jan 2002
    • 1859

    #31
    Man, I hate to bring this up, but half you guys are the exact reason mags take so much flack from the Bounce issue department. If this was anything near a legit tourney, bounce would NOT be allowed, yet you all openly admit to liking it or using it. I'm particularly looking at you WCkeep. You're supposed to be a hard core tourney player.

    You guys cant just handle a decent semi automatic gun. Everything has to be turned up, pressure maxxed, and practically running away. Half you Mag shooters are dangerous cheaters. I would hate to play a walk on game with any of you, for fear you'd put 10 to 12 balls right through my lenses, or my throat.

    God! The very same forum where all you hypocrates stand behind all Toms "Lets deal with bounce" threads, and then you're spewing your love of bounce just a few threads away.

    You guys are the majority of the reason bounce has even become an issue. I'm so sick of the 10 and 20 mins worth of time at every tourney thats wasted on refs checking everyone's gun. Mags deserve the bad rep they get in this department.

    Go ahead, flame on! I could care less...
    WE ARE DEADCELL, AND WE WILL RUN THROUGH YOU

    Dayspring - "We've had Clare at Shatnerball." "I'm confident that she can take 20 guys."

    "I'd trade my cocker for some steady pu**y"

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    • Wc Keep

      #32
      im not saying that in a legit tourney i would use a setup that bounces that crazy, because in a real tourney i dont.

      but then again this isnt a legit tourney and its also just everyone talking about which mech gun can get the highest bps out any which way.

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      • JEDI
        We beat pump players
        • Jan 2002
        • 1859

        #33
        Its not a matter of fantasy, or rules. It a matter of saftey. The fact that its against the rules in a tournament, doesnt make it bad. The fact that its dangerous, makes it bad. Condoning the use of it, IS condoning the use of it.

        I'm less likely to believe someone "wasnt bouncing" this time when they got caught, when they believe in using in in any other scenario.
        WE ARE DEADCELL, AND WE WILL RUN THROUGH YOU

        Dayspring - "We've had Clare at Shatnerball." "I'm confident that she can take 20 guys."

        "I'd trade my cocker for some steady pu**y"

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        • Ov3rmind
          Speechless
          • Nov 2001
          • 2637

          #34
          Originally posted by Wc Keep
          im not saying that in a legit tourney i would use a setup that bounces that crazy, because in a real tourney i dont.

          but then again this isnt a legit tourney and its also just everyone talking about which mech gun can get the highest bps out any which way.
          Actually it's just asking which gun you'd prefer to use in a tourney, not which one can get the highest bps.

          I agree with you somewhat JEDI, if you noticed my earlier posts.
          Converge Kills

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          • JEDI
            We beat pump players
            • Jan 2002
            • 1859

            #35
            Originally posted by Ov3rmind

            I agree with you somewhat JEDI, if you noticed my earlier posts.
            Actually I did notice. You were the only one with some interesting sense.
            WE ARE DEADCELL, AND WE WILL RUN THROUGH YOU

            Dayspring - "We've had Clare at Shatnerball." "I'm confident that she can take 20 guys."

            "I'd trade my cocker for some steady pu**y"

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            • Jack & Coke
              TUNAMAX No. 1
              • Jul 2002
              • 2644

              #36
              Originally posted by JEDI
              Man, I hate to bring this up, but half you guys are the exact reason mags take so much flack from the Bounce issue department. If this was anything near a legit tourney, bounce would NOT be allowed, yet you all openly admit to liking it or using it. I'm particularly looking at you WCkeep. You're supposed to be a hard core tourney player.

              You guys cant just handle a decent semi automatic gun. Everything has to be turned up, pressure maxxed, and practically running away. Half you Mag shooters are dangerous cheaters. I would hate to play a walk on game with any of you, for fear you'd put 10 to 12 balls right through my lenses, or my throat.

              God! The very same forum where all you hypocrates stand behind all Toms "Lets deal with bounce" threads, and then you're spewing your love of bounce just a few threads away.

              You guys are the majority of the reason bounce has even become an issue. I'm so sick of the 10 and 20 mins worth of time at every tourney thats wasted on refs checking everyone's gun. Mags deserve the bad rep they get in this department.

              Go ahead, flame on! I could care less...
              Dude...

              chill out...

              this is a "PRETEND" tournament...

              This is just for "fun" discussion! :)

              Think of it as an EXTREME TOURNAMENT... The REAL X-BALL...

              The only major safety rule is MAX VELOCITY = 280 FPS.

              As far as over-shooting is concerned, I have TONS of experience playing RT (both my sweet-spotting mag and M98RT) in private games where we don't care about sweet-spotting or bounce. We all know each other and trust each other. I can tell you this... I shoot WAY more paint (bursts) using my GZ timmy and when I use my RT guns.

              I'm not trying to justify RT or anything.

              This thread is just a "what if". If you want to play in this thread, just consider the rules and pick a gun. That's it! Nothing more. There is no debate about the morals or validity of my rules. They are what they are because I said so. :)

              There is NO RIGHT ANSWER... it's just for fun. What weapon would you choose given the rules stated above? sheeeesh....

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              • JEDI
                We beat pump players
                • Jan 2002
                • 1859

                #37
                I did play along. I voted cocker. Then when I went to explain why, I noticed all the responses about people and their cheater guns. I can understand the idea of "make believe" and "lighten up", but when its an issue as serious as this (in paintball anyway) its not too good for Mags when its main usergroup openly discusses the joy of using it.

                If this was Toms thread (I know...its not Toms thread), and he was discussing doing away with bounce, all the same people here would be Butt Kissing agreeing with him.
                WE ARE DEADCELL, AND WE WILL RUN THROUGH YOU

                Dayspring - "We've had Clare at Shatnerball." "I'm confident that she can take 20 guys."

                "I'd trade my cocker for some steady pu**y"

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                • Wc Keep

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Ov3rmind

                  Actually it's just asking which gun you'd prefer to use in a tourney, not which one can get the highest bps.

                  I agree with you somewhat JEDI, if you noticed my earlier posts.
                  but the conversation shifted from it being what gun to which gun can get the high bps.

                  and i would not be butt kissing to do away with bounce because the small amounts of bounce that the rt mags normally get are what help get a couple more balls out per second.

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                  • Jack & Coke
                    TUNAMAX No. 1
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 2644

                    #39
                    JEDI,

                    PLEASE... if you wish to argue and flame people regarding sweet-spotting, please CREATE your OWN thread.

                    This thread is about WHICH GUN WOULD YOU CHOOSE IN A SPECIAL RULES TOURNAMENT... NOT about the morals of SWEET-SPOTTING.

                    I'd appreciate it if you didn't muck up my thread... thanks :)

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                    • Thordic
                      AFTICA
                      • May 2001
                      • 5986

                      #40
                      Adam, I never said I condoned bounce, or would use it in real life. But in the fantasy land that is this poll, an M98 with RT trigger would have 1.5X more firepower than any other gun.

                      If the rules allow for something that gives you an edge, you wouldn't take it?

                      If the NPPL rules didn't have a rule against trigger bounce, it was deemed perfectly legal, you wouldn't use it even though it gave you distinct edge?

                      We aren't talking about playing in the grey here. That's cheating. We are talking about using every advantage at your disposal while still playing WITHIN the rules.

                      Tourney players are likely to push things further in real life. I can't even count the number of times I have heard serious tourney players talk about how to play the grey.

                      Fine, in real life, trigger bounce isn't safe. Who gives a flick, because in this poll, reality is out the window.

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                      • RRfireblade

                        • Jun 2002
                        • 5103

                        #41
                        First off,

                        R/T/X Mag, since when can a bouncing Tippy out shoot a bouncing Mag? I can R/T my Mag well beyond my Halo till the L10's kicking in like every other shot.

                        Also,if your banning electros(I assume 'cause of ROF) why allow R/T guns?

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                        • Jack & Coke
                          TUNAMAX No. 1
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 2644

                          #42
                          Originally posted by RRfireblade


                          Also,if your banning electros(I assume 'cause of ROF) why allow R/T guns?

                          You assume wrong... :)

                          I like electros... :)

                          I just thought it's be fun to see which gun you'd choose if ONLY MECHANICAL GUNS were allowed.

                          Remember the old stories of two gentlement just about to duel to the death. A third guy opens a box and says, "choose your weapon".

                          If you want to humor yourself, just pretend Smart Parts killed off the electro market, and NPPL and PSP created a MECH only divison...

                          I don't know...

                          be creative...! :) LOL!

                          Don't take this too seriously, just have fun with it...

                          BTW, looks like PBN like cockers :) http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...hreadid=280894

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                          • RRfireblade

                            • Jun 2002
                            • 5103

                            #43
                            Nah,
                            I'm not taking it seriously,I just figured the only real diffenecr between Mech and Elec was the trigger pull.

                            Also,I was just going to mention your PBNation post and the Cocker results, pretty interesting huh?(the results not that I just noticed your other post)

                            Jay.
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                            • Prairie
                              Registered User
                              • Nov 2001
                              • 292

                              #44
                              Go go m98.

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                              • Jack & Coke
                                TUNAMAX No. 1
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 2644

                                #45
                                Originally posted by RRfireblade


                                Also,I was just going to mention your PBNation post and the Cocker results, pretty interesting huh?(the results not that I just noticed your other post)

                                Jay.
                                Yeah, especially since I posted it in a GENERAL forum... not the cocker forum.

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