Mouse Trap Trigger

[Miscue]

I was thinking about how a mouse trap works, and how slight pressure will spring the trap.

Now, what if you applied the priniciples of a mouse trap to tripping a sear? Perhaps, using the bolt return to reset the trap... although I realize there is not much energy to be tapped from the return.

I'm assuming this sort of thing was thought of years ago, and that it doesn't work otherwise it would be used. Anyone know why it doesn't work?

Perhaps ULT and LX changes the feasibility of this?

[luke]

Interesting idea...

[JAM]

Isn't that sort of how the cocker racegun frame works? it just uses a small solennoid to trip a light lever that allows the sear to move. dumb way to explain it, but in theory, it's similar to your mousetrap.

[Clockwork_Orange]

Are you crazy Miscue!?! You'll lose a finger with a trigger like that

[50 cal]

Lots of firearms use this same principal to reset the trigger and sear for the next shot.

[hitech]

The problem as I see it is that the mouse trap "trigger" is not very stable. It does not latch reliably. I releases far to easily. However, what about a modified mouse trap...

[yurchikcs]

Originally posted by 50 cal
Lots of firearms use this same principal to reset the trigger and sear for the next shot.

Exactly. A mousetrap is a rough version of a basic trigger system, where the cheese sits on the trigger, the retaining wire is the sear and the actual wire trap bar is the hammer. Sorry Miscue, nothing new here.

[dinger]

even though that technically is the way that the current triggers work, has there ever been a trigger that was built almost exactly like a mousetrap?? with an exetremely light trigger pull :o

[RRfireblade]

JUST happen to be cleaning so for those who are interested........

[RRfireblade]

I give you a 100 year old mouse trap design.....

[RRfireblade]

Originally posted by dinger
even though that technically is the way that the current triggers work, has there ever been a trigger that was built almost exactly like a mousetrap?? with an exetremely light trigger pull :o

That trigger there is lighter than any electro PBall gun I've ever shot.(Used for match shooting only. )

Jay.

[Miscue]

That's similar to what I had in mind. I figure, why must the trigger directly engage the sear? The ULT makes the trigger pretty dang light, but why not go one step further? I'd like to see the trigger indirectly trip the sear... and also use a trigger disconnector.

Make the trigger pull/length have nothing to do with sear movement... but rather actuate a mechanism that happens to trip the sear.

With the trigger disengaged from the sear, you could use the bolt return to reset the sear to locked position. This way you can trip the sear, but won't have hyperframe type problems.

Maybe... instead of using the RT for a reactive trigger, use the reactivity to reset the mouse trap.

[RRfireblade]

I agree, it's a pretty simple design.

However the sear/disconector was designed before and for the 45Colt (Browning actually I believe)it might be tougher to retro in a Mag.(Automag that is)

I remember Tom saying he tried it or thought about it way back and decided it against it for some reason I don't remember.


Jay.

[madman83]

i've got something like that in the back of my mind. i'm waiting until i get my xvalve before i really start working on it.

[Miscue]

Well, I think he tried it with a trigger that was directly connected with the sear... and the trigger pull was made longer. The question I had is... if you throw the sear out of the equation... as far as the trigger pull goes... would it open up different doors... making a trigger disconnector feasible w/o a really long pull.