Hmmm...that girl looks familiar...

[ShooterJM]

Originally posted by Albinonewt
Be a Damsel in distree for crying out loud! And make sure you're convincing, or i might not set my bear down and leave the couch to "rescue" you.

ROFLMAO That's great! But don't do it too much ladies or it'll get annoying.

[JEDI]

Re: Heh, Furb...

Originally posted by raehl
I don't know why, but I always had you pegged as an oolder, larger guy. Go figure.

Personally, I'm getting mighty sick of all these scantily clad "paintball chick" photos. (That includes the new Claire AGD poster.)

I want more pics of female players in paintball uniforms - of teams they actually play on. Women who spend more time practicing than making publicity appearances. Put an end to this "Yeah, you can be a well-known woman in paintball - if you look good on a poster" stuff.

Not that I have anything against playing paintball AND looking good, but I'd really like to see more women take paintball seriously as an athletic option, and that's not going to happen until we start recognizing women in the sport WITHOUT sticking them on a poster with product in their hand.

- Chris

See that, you tried to sound sensitive, and got flamed. Sex sells man. It doesnt have to belittle a person unless in your mind it does. No one looks down on a girl because she's in a poster. Give em credit. These girls chose to do what they do.

[DiRTyBuNNy]

I don't care what you guys say...I'll take the tall blonde in the middle in a heartbeat..

and darn, Havoc...I've got some leftover Paxil you can chew on..

[JEDI]

Haha, yeah, You slackers. I wouldnt throw any of them outta bed.

[raehl]

I'm not talking about Claire or Bea or anyone else in particular (esp. since I'm pretty sure both Claire and Bea could give me a good walloping on the field). I'm talking about the marketing. Why can't AGD have a poster of Claire in a jersey bunkering some poor fool instead of in a pair of hotpants cuddling with a stuffed animal with product conspicuously cast into the shot?

Fact of the matter is that if Claire were just as good of a player as she is, but half as attractive, we wouldn't be having this discussion, because none of you would know who she was or care. And that's kinda sad. It's also not a knock on Claire and her skills, it's a knock on the industry and the way they treat/approach/present female players. And the way players treat/approach female players - even here. 80-90% of the comments on AO in Claire-related threads are about what? Hint: It's not her game.

We have our fair share of women playing in the college league, and I definitely like to showcase that participation - but I have no pictures of our female players that highlight their sex appeal. We've got them in uniforms and playing, because I think it is extremely important for women to be able to think "I can be good at paintball and be recognized for it," because they see other women being recognized exclusively for their PLAY.

That's not to say paintball players can't also be sexy and move product, but when that's the ONLY way other women see female players being recognized in the sport, that's a problem. That's not sending the message that paintball is a sport where both genders can compete, that's sending the message that "We'll let girls play paintball if they'll do photo shoots."

The question is not "Is it ok for Claire to be sexy?" Of course it is. The question is "Would we know who Claire was if she were average-looking?", and if the answer to that is no, then the sport has some work to do.

- Chris

[Furby]

Re: Heh, Furb...

Originally posted by raehl
I don't know why, but I always had you pegged as an oolder, larger guy. Go figure.

Personally, I'm getting mighty sick of all these scantily clad "paintball chick" photos. (That includes the new Claire AGD poster.)

I want more pics of female players in paintball uniforms - of teams they actually play on. Women who spend more time practicing than making publicity appearances. Put an end to this "Yeah, you can be a well-known woman in paintball - if you look good on a poster" stuff.

Not that I have anything against playing paintball AND looking good, but I'd really like to see more women take paintball seriously as an athletic option, and that's not going to happen until we start recognizing women in the sport WITHOUT sticking them on a poster with product in their hand.


Here's a hottie after a day of paintball with NO product, for example:

(pic deleted)

Oh, alright, fine, here's another one you'll like better - this time at the bar after a day of paintball (still with no product)

(pic deleted)


- Chris

Heh...I hear that alot. For the record, I'm 33 years old, 5'10", 181 pounds. Pretty average, really. When I met Drago Lazetich (Speedball: The movie) a couple of years ago out in California, he didn't recognize me until I said hello to him...he said pretty much the same thing as you did...he thought I was closer to 45 years old and much, much bigger. Go figure.

As for the rest, one of the few things I *did* know about Capo was that she was primarily a player, and I'm willing to bet that she was chosen to represent the company based on that genuine player background rather than her looks. Not saying she's unattractive, but the fact that she's an extremely competent player was the primary reason she was hired. The fact that she's attractive and pleasant to talk to (Yes, I've talked to her before) certainly doesn't hurt. I'm a bit on the fence as far as how women are portrayed within the sport...sex does indeed sell, but if a company can find spokesmodels who actually participate in the sport, and do it well, then they're ahead in the game.

Like AGD, Animal Paintball is fortunate to have spokesmodels who actually play as well as being attractive. Rosey (the redhead) and Brandi (the blonde in the sunglasses) are quite capable players themselves. Rosey in particular is one of the most intimidating players I've come across...she's got a game on glare that matches any man's out there. Brandi is a tiny, quick little front player, and she's as aggressive as anyone out there. I don't know if she still plays, but when I saw her play a year or so ago, she was doing just fine. The fact that they're both attractive, intelligent, outgoing women doesn't hurt them a bit, nor do I think it hinders them in any way.

I apologize if I offended Capo in some way...that wasn't my intention. If I did, please accept my apologies, and do try to not hurt me too badly if we ever meet up on the field!

As for the rest of you, I'm waiting on pics like Animal Mother is!

Oh, and here's a picture where I don't look angry or constipated:

[AcemanPB]

I think the girl on the far left is cute.

[Animal Mother]

Originally posted by Furby


Since I made the mistaken identity on Capo, I'll be the first to put my pic up:

nooo noo.. you weren't saying the girls were "ugly" and "butter faces" like some people were, ya just mistook one of them for Clare. Nothin wrong with that, making rude comments about them is.

But the pic you posted.... so how was that '03 Shocker?!? Was it easy to walk? hehe

[Furby]

The first thing that went through my mind when I picked it up was "Wow, this thing is as light as a 'mag, and nearly as small"

I only got to shoot it a little bit, but to me the trigger seemed to be made to walk. I won't spam these forums up with links, but if you were to look in my profile, you'd find the website that has significantly more information about the gun...that picture was taken about a week or so before the Chicago Open.

[ShooterJM]

Personally I find brandi quite attractive. Think I posted some pics of her in the hot female thread in friendly.

[Jeb_Hoge]

I rather liked the two in the middle.

[Miscue]

Cheers to the girls out there who play for the love of the sport... and have the burden of additional expectations placed upon them by fourteen year old boys, and grown men who act like them.

[raehl]

Very well said Miscue.

- Chris

[TheBigRaguPB4L]

Originally posted by Animal Mother
You guys talking crap on the ladies above, post a picture of yourself so we can see what kind of "prize" you all are.

Since when is it a crime for stating your opinion on a publicly displayed photograph? Hell, what if he's some fat short little gnome that lives in his parents basement? He's not putting himself out on display for everyone to see. If you're going to show up on posters and advertise yourself like they do, i think it should be acceptable for people to state their opinions, whether negative or positive, especailly on a paintball forum. Sure they were pretty rude about it, but i have to agree that some of them aren't really that good looking. BTW, rosey's definitely hot.

[Animal Mother]

Let's see... what did momma use to always say? If you can't say something nice....

Also I am willing to bet theses jackasses wouldn't have the paintballs to say what they said here to theses ladies in person, so that makes them a bunch of...

Sheet talkin' english cigarettes.