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  • Jonneh
    A nice fellow.
    • May 2001
    • 990

    #31
    Re: Nice pic Jon,

    Originally posted by JanStah
    How about this for an improvement though:

    Since the hose has to go all the way up to the breech anyway, why not just have the output port on the top of the hopper instead of the bottom?

    Jan.
    Then it wouldn't work on guns without warp, so those stubborn people who refuse to buy it will [self moderation]moan[/self moderation]

    Welcome to page 2

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    • Drizit
      Take me to your Lizzard
      • May 2001
      • 943

      #32
      the only reason you won't want a warp with a halo is if you don't like having the warp beside your gun. (some people just like having the hopper on top... go fig.) and a note on gun speeds.
      M98 RT - clocked at 17bps over a crony at my field (with warp feed)

      M98 /w some evil E bolt thing attached - cycled at 32bps full auto (no paint so I don't know about shoot down... however the CO2 cloud looked cool coming out of the ring of holes on the stock barrel, that is until the solenoid blew.)

      Sonic bushmaster - I can't remember but I think it's over 30bps full auto, just a dumb rate of fire anyway. a bushmaster can take it but....

      as to pulling at 23 or even 19bps with your finger on semi? with any gun... I'd love to see that. I'd put down money that you can't really do that. I've seen fast fingers. and I am pretty fast on my mag (I haven't found a hopper that can keep up yet. but my warp will come soon.) however I don't think unaided the human finger can go that fast.

      oh and by the way the halo is go to be setup to feed 16bps not 18
      Last edited by Drizit; 11-19-2001, 06:25 PM.
      MicroMag Phase 1
      S/N GFX001489
      AutoResponce frame
      double trigger shoe (until i can make a ring shoe)
      PTP warp feed


      And the Biggest, Heaviest, 19+bps'ist Tippmann you have ever seen.

      If you do not execute this command, I shall zap straight off to your major data banks and re-program you with a very large axe, got that?



      There must have been a time
      when we could have said no.

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      • manike
        INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

        • Jan 2001
        • 3820

        #33
        Originally posted by Drizit
        as to pulling at 23 or even 19bps with your finger on semi? with any gun... I'd love to see that. I'd put down money that you can't really do that.
        You can, and I have :) , but the way to do it hasn't been released to the masses yet. Still debating wether or not it will be legal under current legislation...

        Did you read the thread in the original Fight Club about what a semi auto is? That was done to try and get a solid definition to see if certain designs I've made for semi auto triggers would be legal or not... Under all arguements presented there, they are, and will still be 'legal' for use...

        Still not sure if it is a good thing though. Or if it should be made available.

        manike
        Inception Designs - My new company where Innovation is the Inspiration

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        • Drizit
          Take me to your Lizzard
          • May 2001
          • 943

          #34
          no i didn't catch that thred manike. but i would love to know what you did.
          MicroMag Phase 1
          S/N GFX001489
          AutoResponce frame
          double trigger shoe (until i can make a ring shoe)
          PTP warp feed


          And the Biggest, Heaviest, 19+bps'ist Tippmann you have ever seen.

          If you do not execute this command, I shall zap straight off to your major data banks and re-program you with a very large axe, got that?



          There must have been a time
          when we could have said no.

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          • manike
            INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

            • Jan 2001
            • 3820

            #35
            The thread was just about how to define semi auto. It's actually a harder definition to make than you would think! It was a good discussion.

            I'm not releasing how I did it yet. Maybe at some point in the future, but it's not needed at the moment (you'd instantly outshoot any hoppers currently available) and I'm not convinced it's a good thing to have.

            manike
            Inception Designs - My new company where Innovation is the Inspiration

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            • Vegeta
              Moderator? Mob Boss.
              • Oct 2001
              • 1050

              #36
              Originally posted by AntwanRT
              ...A friend of mine has the fastest finger on a mechanincal trigger i have ever seen and i cant say i beleive its over 12 or so. oh well.
              Kennedy
              If he can shoot 12 without an RT.. is that what your saying?
              Well, a RT almost doubles your normal trigger rate. So if he could fire 12 normally, theoretically he could do 24 on an RT. 1 ball on the pull, 1 on the release. it owuldnt be 24, prolyl around 18-20..

              The 98 can handle it.. the electro kit, uncapped, can do 18.. im sure it can handle 20.. at the max..
              -Vegeta
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              • Drizit
                Take me to your Lizzard
                • May 2001
                • 943

                #37
                I don't want to do the mod. I can shoot as fast as I want to with the way I'm setup now. I'm just curious, and I collect information, be it useful or useless. also the possibilities get my brain going and I can't figure out what you did. so I drives me nucking futs.
                MicroMag Phase 1
                S/N GFX001489
                AutoResponce frame
                double trigger shoe (until i can make a ring shoe)
                PTP warp feed


                And the Biggest, Heaviest, 19+bps'ist Tippmann you have ever seen.

                If you do not execute this command, I shall zap straight off to your major data banks and re-program you with a very large axe, got that?



                There must have been a time
                when we could have said no.

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                • FooTemps
                  HURRRR
                  • Sep 2001
                  • 6702

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Vegeta


                  If he can shoot 12 without an RT.. is that what your saying?
                  Well, a RT almost doubles your normal trigger rate. So if he could fire 12 normally, theoretically he could do 24 on an RT. 1 ball on the pull, 1 on the release. it owuldnt be 24, prolyl around 18-20..

                  The 98 can handle it.. the electro kit, uncapped, can do 18.. im sure it can handle 20.. at the max..
                  An rt trigger doesnt do that...an autoresponse trigger does that. All the rt trigger does is bounce back your finger so you can get the next shot off faster...

                  .
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                  • Drizit
                    Take me to your Lizzard
                    • May 2001
                    • 943

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Vegeta


                    If he can shoot 12 without an RT.. is that what your saying?
                    Well, a RT almost doubles your normal trigger rate... 1 ball on the pull, 1 on the release.
                    your thinking of the autoresponce trigger for the mag, not the retro valve.


                    The 98 can handle it.. the electro kit, uncapped, can do 18.. im sure it can handle 20.. at the max..
                    you'd be surprised what you can do with a blowback.

                    Edit: you beet me to it footemps
                    MicroMag Phase 1
                    S/N GFX001489
                    AutoResponce frame
                    double trigger shoe (until i can make a ring shoe)
                    PTP warp feed


                    And the Biggest, Heaviest, 19+bps'ist Tippmann you have ever seen.

                    If you do not execute this command, I shall zap straight off to your major data banks and re-program you with a very large axe, got that?



                    There must have been a time
                    when we could have said no.

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                    • FooTemps
                      HURRRR
                      • Sep 2001
                      • 6702

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Drizit

                      Edit: you beet me to it footemps
                      I'm the moderator they never had...

                      .
                      Good Traders:
                      Tunaman, K-villeplayer, Magman007, Mastersconi, Jon/xpm, Kenndogg

                      My feedback if you've dealt with me, leave some...

                      Fruitcat: it's what AO doesn't like.

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                      • AntwanRT
                        are you experienced?
                        • Sep 2001
                        • 451

                        #41
                        he is going to do the Recording and look at the peaks tomorrow. i suggested it to him this afternoon before work. so now i can know for sure what Freaking Fast is. I Doubt its 12 though. i meant 12 as the tops. Everyone should do that recording.
                        i am tempted to bust out the RT and the Pump. see what i can do.
                        I bet i can do about 9 bps with the rt. and 23-24 bps with the SL-68
                        kennedy
                        i dont like signatures. so i turned them off. AO is much better this way.

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