Sean from KAAP products says some guns shoot further then others

[Automaggin2]

haha check this out:


Little story for you. At ZAP Am back in 99. When the new flatline on the tippman came out. They setup a booth to proove how far it can shoot and said anyone could bring up their gun and try and hit the back targets. No gun could... people were barely rolling balls up to the targets at 300. Graham from SP comes out. Chronos at 275 with a shocker. Was hitting the back tagets. Explain that.... I refuse to have an argument on range. Everything everyone says is based on high school physics which is completely wrong for the purpose for paintball. I have shot and seen different guns have different ranges. Been working and tweaking on guns for many years.....

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[No sKiLLz]

It worked on the Z-body too, but I quit using it because the increased range encouraged me to try to hit further targets, but the paint didn't have enough momentum to break.

Please don't flame me for saying this, but I was under the impression the whole idea behind puting a backspin on the ball was the same principal used in a gyroscope. The inertia of the spin would carry it futher in the direction it was directed. Therefore a backspin directs the spin in an upward direction and gives the paintball more "hang time".

[spydervenom]

i can't figure out how fluid dynamics only applys to shockers while high school physics slows all the other guns down.

[dinger]

hah... screw physics!

the ball will shoot at different ranges depending on the internal parts of the gun

[rikkter]

no skillz, your right i believe, the backspin DOES make them go further, but it also makes the balls go a lot slower, i went up against one and i felt like Neo in the matrix, you could literally dodge them. i tried to catch one but, i didn't, i could of i closed my hand quicker.

[Automaggin2]

Originally posted by dinger


the ball will shoot at different ranges depending on the internal parts of the gun

Thats totally incorrect. How can you say anything that stupid? I mean come on, everyone who is smart will tell you what makes a ball go further. Ask any knowledgable person here, they will all tell you its about the elves. If you have good elves, the gun will have greater accuracy and greater distance.

[No sKiLLz]

Originally posted by Automaggin2



Thats totally incorrect. How can you say anything that stupid? I mean come on, everyone who is smart will tell you what makes a ball go further. Ask any knowledgable person here, they will all tell you its about the elves. If you have good elves, the gun will have greater accuracy and greater distance.

WRONG!!! THEY'RE GNOMES!!!
Matrix Gnomes are the best, because they can jump buildings and know Kung-Fu.

...but the paint didn't have enough momentum to break.

I agree, rikkter, That's why I undid the screw and simply admired the aesthetics of a aftermarket mag body.

[WARPED1]

Originally posted by Automaggin2



Thats totally incorrect. How can you say anything that stupid? I mean come on, everyone who is smart will tell you what makes a ball go further. Ask any knowledgable person here, they will all tell you its about the elves. If you have good elves, the gun will have greater accuracy and greater distance.

Can you not take a frigging joke?! denotes a joke, or sarcasm(witty)

[DWill]

Heh miscue you just owned him...nice work there.

[spydervenom]

Originally posted by WARPED1

Can you not take a frigging joke?! denotes a joke, or sarcasm(witty)

your lack of smilies tells me you are serious. if you are...read the post again.

[Tom Sparkman]

Originally posted by No sKiLLz
Please don't flame me for saying this, but I was under the impression the whole idea behind puting a backspin on the ball was the same principal used in a gyroscope. The inertia of the spin would carry it futher in the direction it was directed. Therefore a backspin directs the spin in an upward direction and gives the paintball more "hang time".

No, it's caused by the Magnus Effect - there's lots of info online if you do a google.

Tom

[Muzikman]

You guys don't want to know my findings about 5 years ago then

[thei3ug]

yeah. palmer guns kick da poopers out of all oderz.


palmer, W00T! YEAH! goin tourny stylez on you peeps.

[nt2004]

Originally posted by rikkter
no skillz, your right i believe, the backspin DOES make them go further, but it also makes the balls go a lot slower, i went up against one and i felt like Neo in the matrix, you could literally dodge them. i tried to catch one but, i didn't, i could of i closed my hand quicker.

i ahve a flatline and i noticed from the first day that the range increased but it make the balls "drift" to the targets. The balls traveled so slow once they reached about 50 feet. Thats always been my main concern with using it is that the wind has all control over the ball when its going that slow

[acecl22]

i have a possible explanation for the farther shooting shocker, wind. maybe the wind changed direction before he started shooting, maybe there was an updraft... or maybe he just angled his gun up farther, im pretty sure any gun can shoot 300 feet if you angle it just right