AGD gets a new hopper patent.

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  • mattyfatty182

    #16
    What the heck, Am i missing something? It looks like a friggin VL?

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    • nutz
      l0l
      • Oct 2001
      • 1412

      #17
      matty u didnt look far enuf down, the real part in like on page 6 i think. tom is deffintly working hard for us thank u tom, i would be first in line to get one of those if it developed and was sold!!! GO TOM!
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      • rifleman
        I registered before you.
        • Oct 2000
        • 592

        #18
        Wouldn't it be a little front heavy and hinder snap shooting with all that weight in the front?

        That, and the fact that it would heavly block your aiming view.

        But, other than those two things, I like it. I'm hoping there will be an on-top version like this:
        Last edited by rifleman; 11-21-2001, 11:41 AM.

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        • rifleman
          I registered before you.
          • Oct 2000
          • 592

          #19
          Like this:

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          • nutz
            l0l
            • Oct 2001
            • 1412

            #20
            just wondering but has ne one heard toms input on this?? i would like to hear what he has to say
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            • ubooze
              Good to the last drop...
              • Nov 2001
              • 370

              #21
              Looks Cool

              That thing looks nice!

              But I don't think it is to practical.
              It would throw the whole balance of.
              And it looks bad!
              You's probably have to modify other guns to take averything.

              But its an excellent idea!
              I wish I wasn't broke....

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              • AGD
                The man from AGD

                • Oct 2000
                • 5916

                #22
                This patent was just to plug another hole in the dyke. We are not planning on producing this one any time soon.

                AGD
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                • Vegeta
                  Moderator? Mob Boss.
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 1050

                  #23
                  Originally posted by vf-xx

                  Currently I'm dreaming up a screw style warpfeed that is powered by your airsource and turns evertime you fire. No electronics.
                  You wont be able to get a patent on that bro. Tippmann already has a patent on a hopper thats way too close to what you want to do. I think I have explained it before, but Ill say it again.

                  the original hopper was fo hte Tippmann F/A (full auto all mechanical gun, co2 powered with a spring driven bolt system to make it full auto). It looked liek a small coffee can, with a star shaped cog in the bottom (liek the one in the warp that grabs balls and shoves them up the hose) It sat in the bottom of this can, and was driven by a spring also. A few motnhs ago, Deniss Tippmann showed up at his hoem feild with a new prototype of the old hopper. This one was powered by blowback gas of a M98. A small hole was drilled into the M98's valve port, liek an RT Trigger is installed, but hte hose ran forward on the gun to a piston (looked like a cocker arm). Every time hte gun was fired, when the powertube traveled back, the blowback gas normally just exits the gun, but in this case it pushed hte piston, turnign the star shaped thingy 1 balls length, pushing 1 ball down hte elbow.

                  So as you can see, that is awful close to what you propose. If you make it run off a line from the tank itself (liek a M203 is powered) and it looks more liek a warp than a hopper, it might get by.. but its awful close.

                  Still a good idea.


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                  • manike
                    INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                    • Jan 2001
                    • 3820

                    #24
                    With all due respect Vegeta are you a patent attorney or an authority on patents?

                    You would be amazed at what you can patent even if it is extremely similiar to something else. You just need to show an innovative step. It doesn't have to be completely different. It just has to be innovative step 'forwards'.

                    It doesn't even have to work, and you don't even need to have made a prototype.

                    It even seems like the US Patent Office is prepared to let almost identical things get patented and then leave it to the courts to decide AFTER grant...

                    manike
                    Inception Designs - My new company where Innovation is the Inspiration

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                    • Vegeta
                      Moderator? Mob Boss.
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 1050

                      #25
                      I Like to play around with ideas :)

                      This, to me, would seem to work better, for the balls would feed easier, and move around that corner better.

                      See below \/
                      -Vegeta
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                      • Vegeta
                        Moderator? Mob Boss.
                        • Oct 2001
                        • 1050

                        #26
                        Yea manike- your right. I just like making myself look smart by talking about all that stuff :).

                        On a separate note:

                        I Like to play around with ideas :)

                        This, to me, would seem to work better, for the balls would feed easier, and move around that corner better.

                        See below \/
                        -Vegeta
                        View my DevArt gallery Here

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                        • FooTemps
                          HURRRR
                          • Sep 2001
                          • 6702

                          #27
                          Why don't you just integrate a warpfeed into a hopper instead? I think the belt feed would be less effective... Once you stop shooting the whole belt will have to stop within about 1/4 seconds to keep from breaking a ball...

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                          • FooTemps
                            HURRRR
                            • Sep 2001
                            • 6702

                            #28
                            Like this... I know this is a sloppy pic...

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                            • rifleman
                              I registered before you.
                              • Oct 2000
                              • 592

                              #29
                              Vegeta-

                              If you look real real close on my picture you'll notice a "c" which stands for copyright!!! I gonna sue you!!!

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                              • Dragoon
                                Team Dragoons
                                • May 2001
                                • 580

                                #30
                                FooTemps,

                                Wow, I'd suggest changing to a paint brand that is a little more round

                                (sorry could'nt help myself)

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