q loader????

[TheClapp15]

Allright, Allright...I smell what your stepping in. I'm not down playing the warp in any way. In fact I have one and plan on keeping it as I work on revamping my mag. But what I am saying is these qloaders are true force feed loaders that no matter what way you put the gun it will always fire and for a front man...low pro, constant feed in any position, and compact. well I'm gonna give it a try. My second gun currently is a Gen-x 4 and when my mag is done the cocker is going down for a qloader.
I say keep airgun products together.
So to buy another loading system I would be paying about the same amount...I'll foot the extra cash for the reasons described above.

[AkumA]

ok, hold on. this thing hasn't even hit the market, im sure the price will drop.

will it? yes, it always does. good example is the tippy A-5. $300 for a smaller ver of the 98c with a cyclone feeder? overpriced is what i thought at first. now you can get r/t ver. of those for under 300.

it may not catch attention to tourny players, but senario, probly. heck, if it'll go for 200, i'll think about getting it.

[FistS]

Re: guess I'll play devil's advocate.

[i] I'm not sure where I saw it, but that (evlution II?) ad of the player that brags about shooting up to 2700 rounds a game cracks me up every time. [/B]

Well,
If you get a chance to view either a tourny or practice for most pro teams,
You will see that some of the backplayers, Ala Bob Long carry 15 or so pods /w them onto the field.

I have watched games where backplayers will go thru those 15 pods easily.

The sport of paintball has become the amount of paint you can shoot to keep your opponents into thier bunkers rather than shooting for accuracy.

Now, If i was capable of shooting that much paint, actually, if I was able to afford shooting through a case of paint a game, I definately would. And it is possible to shoot that much paint in a game, especially for most 10 man backplayers and some 7man.

[Albinonewt]

Saw it at IAO. A neat little concept and I'm sure by the time they get to the 4th or 5th generation it will be a really useful product. Until then, I'm counting a more traditional hopper solution.

[schiesz]

Originally posted by personman


QLoader......$250 (plus if you want 5 pods your gonna be shellin out alot more than that )

If you read the article, it says it comes with 5 pods.

[GoatBoy]

Well, I'm sure I'm going to catch flak for this

For starters... $15 for 9v batteries is not hard to imagine. They are a recurring expense. To make it so that they are not a recurring expense, you need to buy rechargeables. You'll need a full set of rechargeables, plus perhaps some backups. Unless you buy disposables for your backups I guess.

Also, if you take into consideration that they already have a 'lodar', then they don't need that loader anymore with the q-loader and can sell it. Sooo... taking that into consideration might actually reduce the Q-Loader price.




Ah, and now, onto the "tourny" argument. I like the way that one line from my posts was selected, out of all the other things I said. Like, for instance, the two lines above it:

Yeah, you might not be able to use all your paint, but I think it's manageable with skill. Obviously, it's not for these lumbering can-you-believe-I'm-wearing-an-entire-case-of-paint "back players".

Or how about:

I look at the q-loader as more of an enabler for a front player than a detractor for a back player. In the right hands, I think the advantages more than make up for the disadvantages. I don't like to sit in the back of the field and just throw paint. I'll let the backer do that.

You see, I DO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PRESENCE AND PERHAPS EVEN THE NEED FOR A BACK PLAYER, TOURNAMENT OR NOT.


Basically the weight of your 15-pod argument rests on this "tournament" aura. Otherwise, it would have no punch.

But quite frankly, I neither look up to tournament players nor aspire to be one. I don't even think they necessarily represent the best of paintball, in either skill or... personality. I don't mean to harp on all tournament players; don't get me wrong, there are some great guys out there. AO is full of 'em. I'm just saying I'm not going to kneel down when someone breathes the word "tournament".



Only time will tell, but who's to say the 15-pod behemoth won't one day become extinct.





But then again, bad practices and misinformation in paintball seem to linger on for years.

[AllAmericanMag]

Originally posted by Star_Base_CGI
It looks like a p3n1x pump.

You'd know.

[Albinonewt]

Re: Re: guess I'll play devil's advocate.

Originally posted by FistS
The sport of paintball has become the amount of paint you can shoot to keep your opponents into thier bunkers rather than shooting for accuracy.

Dude, its called supressing fire, and it's pretty important in a game. The goal isn't always to hit the other guy. A lot of the times your simply trying to keep him down so your front players can work an angle.

It's not easy being the guy whose job it is to scare everyone so your teammates can get all the credit for the take downs.

[Hasty8]

Originally posted by edweird
Oh and I forgot some of the other dislikes I had about it..it uses a helical screw to load balls.... this is S.C.A.R.Y.!

Helical ammo systems are terrible enough when handling hard munitions such as 20mm, let alone something that can easly break such as paint. And imagine if a ball breaks inside that pod? OMFG yuk!

Helical systems do not work on gunpowder ammunition becase they are not round, more ovular if you will.

Helical systems have been in use to move round objects for decades, for everything from sportsballs to produce to even lightbulbs.

If a lightbulb can survive a helical transportation system a paintball should be no problem.

Also, Adam, this system doe not waste any paint.

Originally posted by adam shannon
and last but not least you cant top it off. you either fire it dry and make yourself vulnerable...or you switch pods wasting whats left in the one you toss out...and you cant fire when the pod is disengaged while your reloading. and whos gonna toss a $50 pod? youll see alot of tourney ballers carefully putting them back in their packs

The same holds true for the warp feed Adam. When the hopper is emptied there are still a few balls in the tube leading from the WF to the marker so I'm not sure what your point is. And yes, you can fire with out a pod on. The double mounting system, which now works according to the company, allows an individual to have one pod on the marker feeding the system while replacing the empty loader. Essentially this will allow back players to fire continuously.

In my $.02 I do not see this as being a speedball loader but more for the req player. As for price I don't see it as being too much. For 250 you get the Qloader itself, 5 pods and a reloading hopper with a 500 ball capacity. Considering that a Halo alone costs about 120 or a X-Board Revvy costs 56. Use that Revvy with a Protemas Warp and you just spent $236 and you still haven't bought any pods yet.

[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

...$200 for a few pods that hold 100 rounds that are pushed into your gun with a spring

...i would call that a waste of money.

but then again i don't know everything about the q-loader all i know is that it's useful in some places but it has its disadvantages.

[Dayspring]

Re: Re: Re: guess I'll play devil's advocate.

Ain't THAT the truth...

Originally posted by Albinonewt
It's not easy being the guy whose job it is to scare everyone so your teammates can get all the credit for the take downs.

[iownamag]

I just plain can not see how any company in there right mind can charge $250 dollars for something that would probaly cost about $10 for the materials to build all 5 of them. Not to mention that it is merely a wound up pod with a hose sticking out of it!! that price is just absurd. if someone wants to pay me $250 I will make the best damn spinning pod ever . I also don't like the thought of having so much weight so far forward. I would use it the way they showed down near the end of the warpig review, with it hanging off your barrel, that is if someone put a gun to my head making me play with one of those crazy things. Otherwise... use the money to buy yourself a halo and a warp! and have money left over. Or I prefer vert feed so I personally would rather buy a halo and like 3 cases of paint to shoot out of my nice, apparently reasonably priced , and plenty fast halo b. . And heck, I'll have all 140 balls or whatever it is the halo holds and if I am about to make a move or I gotta get something done I'll just dump some more paint in and throw my pod down in seconds... see what i'm getting at here. In other words I agree with all the other post disapproving the Q loader. Go halo!

[50 cal]

It's expensive and very few have seen it so far....it will sell like hotcakes.