Does a longer barrel mean better results?

[hitech]

Originally posted by Star_Base_CGI
I have the 16" rifled CMI Sniper barrel with Muzzle break.

Its is 5 times more accurate than the spyder barrel easy.

I will prove it at spplat.

Man I wish I was going to be there to see that! Prove it to Tom. I will be very interested to see what he reports.

BTW, it is IMPOSSIBLE for that barrel to be 5 times more accurate. IMPOSSIBLE. If you want to know why, Read this.

[Star_Base_CGI]

Whatever. You could not hit a barn with the stock 10 Inch ported spyder barrel. Its pure grade A junk.

[hitech]

Originally posted by Star_Base_CGI
Whatever.

Chuff, chuff...

[fcpchop]

doesn't matter what ne one says teh bottom line is the paint match to ur barrel. end of story

[Crazy]

SUP AIR,
nuf said...
16" owns all.

[Recon by Fire]

Rifled paintball barrels? LOL So an object with a liquid core spinning is now more accurate?

I have used 16" SP barrels before, and I have dropped my 14" Freak down to a 10". There is absolutely no change in accuracey. I can play back and still tag you off the break.

Accuracey/distance is all bore match, velocity, and consistancy. Nothing else matters.

[JEDI]

Originally posted by Recon by Fire
Rifled paintball barrels? LOL So an object with a liquid core spinning is now more accurate?

I have used 16" SP barrels before, and I have dropped my 14" Freak down to a 10". There is absolutely no change in accuracey. I can play back and still tag you off the break.

Accuracey/distance is all bore match, velocity, and consistancy. Nothing else matters.

Smart answers = good.

I've gotten the same accuracy out of a 14" Boomie and a 6" pro team barrel. Noise, usefullness in tight situations, etc., thats a different story.

[Phil]

The real answer to your question is that no one knows. Evidenced by the varying and sometimes contradictory posts above this one. No one has done a real study of the many variables. My advice is to get whichever barrel makes you happy. I would like to add that you can get a barrel just as good for half the price of the boomy.

[hitech]

Originally posted by Phil
The real answer to your question is that no one knows... No one has done a real study of the many variables.

Yes they have. Read all about it here.

[Evil Bob]

Freaks, scepters, pipes, empires, etc, etc, and any other multibore barrel system with a two stage bore has an effective barrel length of the tighter of the two bores, which is where your paint to bore match is critical. Normally, the tip (the larger bore) does not touch the ball at all during it's flight through the barrel unless some radical lateral movement has been applied to the barrel which happens alot in fast snap shooting. Since the tip doesn't usually come into contact with the ball, all it really does is equalize the pressure around the ball and smoothly introduce it to the outside environment. Does it affect accuracy? Yes, remove the tip and see how accurate your barrel is without it, your shot groups will increase in size, you will notice a difference with and without it. Turbulance control is what all that porting is for, it does serve a purpose. Does that mean a 20" tip is better then a 4" tip? With a 4" tip, the change in pressure is dramatic, with a 20" tip it's not so dramatic as there is a greater distance to equalize the two pressure zones in, but the 20" tip also has greater risk in the ball hitting the side of the tip as the marker is moved around. There is definitely a point of diminishing returns on tip length, the shorter the tip, the less likelyhood of breaking paint in the tip when snap shooting, but you also get more turbulance affect when the balls exits into the outside environment, which results in slightly less accuracy. The longer the tip, the better the turbulance control and the greater the chance of crashing the ball into the side fo the barrel when snap shooting. There comes a point where you reach a happy medium between the two, usually the 12-14 inch range.

An additional side benefits of a longer tip come in to play when you are balling on a field with inflatibles. As several have posted above, you can use the barrel and push into the inflatible with it so that it bends around your barrel. The longer your barrel, the further behind the inflatible you can get your body and still fire.

-Evil Bob

[A to the G-Dizzle]

Evil Bob gets props for clearing that up.

[Phil]

No offense Hitech but that post only lists some of Toms conclusions. Conclusions without the supporting data are worthless. How would you know if the test was flawed or the wrong conclusions drawn?

[FeelTheRT]

for me.. its 14" or longer. Though ur gun dosn't become more accurate, your able to sight down the barrel easier.

[hitech]

Originally posted by Phil
No offense Hitech but that post only lists some of Toms conclusions. Conclusions without the supporting data are worthless. How would you know if the test was flawed or the wrong conclusions drawn?

Did you look at the supporting documentation in the Data classic thread? Did you follow the links for vortex shedding? Do you challenge BJJB's math? Very little of that thread is Tom. There is a lot of information to read. It will take time to independently verify/dispute. And there in lies the problem, no one wants to take the time...

[Miscue]

Originally posted by Evil Bob
Since the tip doesn't usually come into contact with the ball, all it really does is equalize the pressure around the ball and smoothly introduce it to the outside environment. Does it affect accuracy? Yes, remove the tip and see how accurate your barrel is without it, your shot groups will increase in size, you will notice a difference with and without it. Turbulance control is what all that porting is for, it does serve a purpose.

Not true. The ball is well ahead of the air-blast... this idea of turbulence is moot. Actually, shorter barrels exhibit tighter velocity control... but doesn't really matter.