Hey now.....I love the talon. BEST GUN EVAR! Heh, we've made some funky stuff with talons. On the paint topic, I've also noticed that with all of their new products they try to hide who it's made by. Hilarious, it's almost like they are addmitting that they suck.
Brass Eagle Trying To Hide THere Logo
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Woa Woa Woa. Brass eagle derseves the bashing. I cannot stress that too much. First when they buy out veiwloader they change all of the necks so they dont fit in any elebos. Then they offer cheap guns. Ok there cheap so waht. THEY WAST ARE MONEY they break down in no time at all. Ok and have you seen the complaints about the veiw loader shells. THey break just about every other time you paintball. Now I do thank them for doing somthing about there paint. THere first stuff must have been the most hardest shell ive ever got hit by. OK lets move on, brass eagle buys out spyder. UGHHHHHH. Theye change all there screws so that its difficult.
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Uhmm, no?Originally posted by swat150
OK lets move on, brass eagle buys out spyder. UGHHHHHH. Theye change all there screws so that its difficult.
Kingman owns Spyder. BE owns JT, Viewloader, etc...
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Uhmm no you're wrong.Originally posted by swat150
um no, Honest mistake, Brass eagle bought spyder out. If you dont believe me go call them. I got my info from action pursuit.
Why don't you click here and tell me who owns Spyder?
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Originally posted by swat150
Woa Woa Woa. Brass eagle derseves the bashing. I cannot stress that too much. First when they buy out veiwloader they change all of the necks so they dont fit in any elebos. Then they offer cheap guns. Ok there cheap so waht. THEY WAST ARE MONEY they break down in no time at all. Ok and have you seen the complaints about the veiw loader shells. THey break just about every other time you paintball. Now I do thank them for doing somthing about there paint. THere first stuff must have been the most hardest shell ive ever got hit by. OK lets move on, brass eagle buys out spyder. UGHHHHHH. Theye change all there screws so that its difficult.
where do I even begin....
Im gunna let this one go by. Oh, and BTW, I just got off the phone with a high up at Brass Eagle. Just to make sure BE didnt buy them todaty: BE DOENST OWN KINGMAN NOR SPYDER!!
Call their info line: 1-877-877-GAME
you'll see that they do NOT own Kingman USA
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and on subject...(I came back and decided to start)...
1) BE bought VL and changed the necks. Yep. Wanna know why? THE molds on the old Pre-BE necks were deformed. They had deteriorated over the years and VL had never replaced them. BE replaced them and took them back to spec. Now they're back at the 1" they always were before they slipped out of correctness under the old VL's watch.
2) They break. Yes and no. I've had a couple BE guns for years. My field rented stingrays....some of which had 1 MILLION shots on them and were still going strong. Not bad, IMHO. And why do they break? Because NEWBS own them. Not dissing on newbs, but 99% of newbs dont know jack about (and dont care to know) cleaning a marker and maintaining it. Very few of us would expect our current marker (OK..we own mags....some of us would) to work out of the box for 5-10-15 thousand shots without ANY oil!
3) Complaints about the VL shells. That problem has been fixed. Old history. Besides, look what BE has done for VL: the eggo. the x-board (coming soon for the eggo). the new vl pods. INNOVATION!
4) I dont know what the hell you mean by "they break just about every other time you paintball" so im gunna leave it.
5) their paint has the hardest shells to get hit by. Maybe your guy was shooting hot? maybe he was close to you? Because, back in the day, all paint was 5x harder than it is today. People were tough back then i guess
and be does NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT own spyders. Spyders are made by a Japanese company, and thus started using metric threads, they continue to use them today for that reason
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You guys are not real bright are you? I told you kev was going to own your ***.
jb
Originally posted by gtrsi
rant on
Some of you guys are prejudice morons. Have any of you actually tried any BE products? This kind of lunacy is what we mag owners hear from other forums. these threads suck and it starts like this everytime:
1. Someone starts to talk that Hot poo about BE
2. Kev gets on here and "pwns" everyone
Same thing happens with the spyder bashing
1. someone starts anti-spyder crap
2. Nero blows all you guys up.
rant off
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LOl Kevmaster you proved me wrong. THanks for setting me strait. I got very confused on the brass eagle and spyder thing. And your right, Brass eagle did do alot of good things.But I still have one more thing. I dont think they change there shells yet
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Kingman does not "own" Spyder. Spyder is a line of their guns, not a separate company. Just like Airgun does not own RT. Its just a line of guns.
But yes, BE does deserve a bashing. WHile they have done things good for the sport, they do make junk. When I started playing, I got a Stingray 2. It worked most of the time alright, but was never really all that reliable. And when I tried to use BE paint in it, it jammed, and broke ever other ball. Revvy feed necks snapping all over the world, the Talon, and Blade are just a few of their mistakes. But with those mistakes, you get new players. BE keeps paintball alive. They sell to the kids who go to Wal-Mart. If there were no other companies to sell out of Wal-Mart, there would be very few new players. Many people I know got their start from BE junk. Think of them as a lowly stepping stone, that many of us had to stand on at one time.Formerly ~WarpedRT~
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Guess what? You are wrong. Spyder is a brand name. Kingman owns and manufactures the brand. Just like Ford owns Lincoln/Mercury. The R/T is a marker, Spyder is the brand. Big difference. You know what, Kingman also owns Raven and a few other BRANDS. So you are wrong, Kingman does OWN Spyder!Originally posted by ~WarpedRT#2~
Kingman does not "own" Spyder. Spyder is a line of their guns, not a separate company. Just like Airgun does not own RT. Its just a line of guns.
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well sure it didnt chop but did it actually break. my buddy pinched a ball of severe in his tippmannOriginally posted by automagfreek
Well, I for one have nothing but positive things to say about that Severe paint, it shot very well. I had no chops, and it flew straight and went exactly where I wanted it.www.theangelguy.com for all your angel needs
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