I was just down at my local store shooting the breeze and man he was raggin on the phantom like it was a piece of plastic brass eagle stuff. said the pumps are was hard to slide, the tracer is supposedly more accurate, and it wouldn't stand a chance against a semi auto gun on a woods/speedball course. Someone care to defend the "outdated" phantom?
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I have two of them and am thinking of getting a Stock Class gun. I love the Phantom, death ray accuracy and gas efficient. It just needs tinkering with to use HPA if you've been using CO2.
I get laughed at at games when I break out my Phantom. I usually pick out the Angel shooters to pick on first.
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This is another biased person that would say the same thing about Mags in a Mag vs. Cocker debate, for example.
The Phantom is one of the most well made and smoothest shooting PRODUCTION level pumps. The Carter pumps will put a Phantom in its place, but they're custom built on a per-order basis and will set you back over three times the cost of a Phantom.
The WGP Sniper has a bit smoother of a pump, but overall the Phantom is a much better built gun. It really depends on what you're looking for, but the Phantom is over all a very good pump gun.Comment
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Have the owner come over to Hawaii and we will show him a few things about SUCKY Phantoms (HEHE). True it is not a Carter or Palmer, but after some time and play it is one sweet shooting gun. I have had mine since 89 and it will take on anyone at anytime Woodball or Speed Ball, it likes them all.
Out of the box it does need a little breakin in but what gun doesnt???
But alas its not the gun RIGHT!!!! 5 PROs with Stingrays usually beat any 5 newbies with ANGELS or Such!!!
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i posted on this earlier but there was a guy at the NJ NPPL super 7 who ran a pump against any and all comers. one game he had 4 kills and the next 6...all against semis like timmy's and matrixes, and in head to head snap offs...not back shooting and sniping. first of all its the layer not the marker, secondly i guess that phantom went against some semis and won (not that saying one gun can beat another is even a valid arguement)."whoever did that in the bathroom needs to start eating right and go see a doctor" - Tunaman, AOSC 2
"back in the day of pumps this would have taken all @!#$ing afternoon" - Albinonewt , "Treatise On Welts"; chapter 2: The Electro RevolutionComment
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I have one thing to say about the man who said that....
*smack*
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which is it...on smack, talking smack, or should be smacked?Originally posted by xrancid_milkx
I have one thing to say about the man who said that....
*smack*
"whoever did that in the bathroom needs to start eating right and go see a doctor" - Tunaman, AOSC 2
"back in the day of pumps this would have taken all @!#$ing afternoon" - Albinonewt , "Treatise On Welts"; chapter 2: The Electro RevolutionComment
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All of the above
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I was hoping to see one person post in here... and I got it!! thanks Black... thanks to everyone else too!Originally posted by BlackVCG
This is another biased person that would say the same thing about Mags in a Mag vs. Cocker debate, for example.
The Phantom is one of the most well made and smoothest shooting PRODUCTION level pumps. The Carter pumps will put a Phantom in its place, but they're custom built on a per-order basis and will set you back over three times the cost of a Phantom.
The WGP Sniper has a bit smoother of a pump, but overall the Phantom is a much better built gun. It really depends on what you're looking for, but the Phantom is over all a very good pump gun.Comment
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The only time Phantoms suck is when they are on the other team.
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Yeah, by and large which marker to use is a personal preference. If someone's telling you your marker stinks and you like it then whatever they're saying should just bounce right off you.
At my field a bunch of guys make fun of me for being the only mag player in the group. Too bad I give as good (if not better) then I get.Or better yet, why don't you kill yourself. No, really, die. Drop dead, don't leave a note, in fact burn your house while your little ego is stuck in a bench vice so that you'll also incenerate yourslef and everything you own with it. Because that's all you're worth. You're not even wirh thte time it'll take for the house to burn down, so just kill yourself. You're a waste of space. You are nothing, you always will be nothing. Don't leave a note, you're not worth the ink. - TygerComment
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If that person had even tried the phantom, they wouldn't have made a statement like that. I've been playing with my phantom for over ten years and it still works like a champ. I've tried the sl68, tracer, maverick, p68 and it's variants and have still gone back to my phantom. It is a great marker right out of the box.
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grr...
I'll chalk it up to gross ignorance and trying to sell what he has on the wall...Warp Feed Evangelist
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well, its true, out of the box, the phantom doesnt have a very good pump stroke.
actually, it has a pretty crappy one...
BUT, it is an AWESOME marker. 40 shots on a 12G stock, doesnt break down... ever... and it shoots well. I like mine."The Fine Print: Discontinue use if your eyeballs suddenly get way smaller."Comment
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If by "suck" you mean "best commercially produced pump on the market today" - then YES!
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