how bout forget open-bolt blow-backs all together? They are all the same no matter if it's made by JT, Kingman, PMI, BE, Paradox, Armo-Tech, 32 Degrees, Avalon, Syndicate, Action Markers, Diablo, M3, Mokal, Nu-Line, Raven, Gameface, or ZAP. The internals are all the same (most are even universal) and the performance difference is minimal to non-existant. For what you want to spend treat yourself to a used mag or cocker, or a used Impulse, and maybe a new BKO.
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:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: Metal kids have more fun!! :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
Atleast wipers are good for something........target practice.
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worst gun I have ever seen. ugly and the blowback has nowhere to go but up the feedtube......chop paint like no other.Originally posted by logamus
forget the spyder and get you a jt 5.0.
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Yep they dont make nor sell EM1's anymore. The only place you might find one is used or a local paintball shop. I dont think no online store has them in stock. I can get you a used Em1 anybody. I know this guy who is selling one to buy a BKOOriginally posted by beam
Why will an EM-1 be worth a lot some day?
Rarity?
Just wondering.
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that is kinda ironic.........selling em-1 to buy an em-1 clone.......lolOriginally posted by swat150
Yep they dont make nor sell EM1's anymore. The only place you might find one is used or a local paintball shop. I dont think no online store has them in stock. I can get you a used Em1 anybody. I know this guy who is selling one to buy a BKO
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Red dragun body, turbo valve, 12" Boomstick, Spud magics anti-chop bolt with quickstrip, ELCD, nitroduck 68CI,Gas thru stock, 12V revy, AGD Warpfeed system
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Lol I guess you are right, Hey but at least your not the confused victim. LOLOriginally posted by xen_100
that is kinda ironic.........selling em-1 to buy an em-1 clone.......lol
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BKO, that should have been the second and last post :PLast week i thought i was indecisive, but now im not sure anymore...Comment
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So then by the claim of the EM1 going to be worth alot, why not the AMG? It's being discontinued.
I have an AMG, and it's a great gun. I've got everything I need in a backup in it. The only complaint I have about it is the battery life. Other than that, it's a great gun for the price. It's LP out of the box too.Silver ULE X Valved Mag
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I am a kingman dealer, and I can promise if you shoot both blindfolded you could tell the Electra from the E-99Originally posted by xen_100
whatever.......live in your little dreamworld.
How can a spyder "feel" different when the internal works and the external proprtions are EXACTLY the same? the electra and the e-99 cock different and have a different color. one is not better performing than the other.Comment
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ok.......you're absolutely right, how could I have ever doubted a kingman dealerOriginally posted by bryceeden
I am a kingman dealer, and I can promise if you shoot both blindfolded you could tell the Electra from the E-99
"super multi-green mag" Cp barrels, LX bolt, no-rise, intelli, 47ci flatline, halo................
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Ok, and LP does what?Originally posted by TigerMan
So then by the claim of the EM1 going to be worth alot, why not the AMG? It's being discontinued.
I have an AMG, and it's a great gun. I've got everything I need in a backup in it. The only complaint I have about it is the battery life. Other than that, it's a great gun for the price. It's LP out of the box too.
They still chop paint, they aren't any more efficient. My next door neighbor has one, and had an e99 before it. I played with both, and they both played the same. He doesn't like the AMG, and is getting a mag. LP is just a myth, having your gun work on a lower pressure doesn't do anything. The design of the gun is what matters.Sadly the mag is gone, moved on to an LCD Trix
Originally posted by Nachos
I don't care if you need a special plastic that comes from a tribe in the amazons that can only be crafted by Willy Wonkas Oompa Loompas in his chocolate factory.Comment
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there is no reason why a spyder should chop paint as long as you have a revy and good paint that dosnt have to be pushed though the barrel manuely. all spyders shoot the same but may sound different or feel different. I have a spyder imagine. Great gun, would have no reason to get an more expensive gun unless i need a lcd that can tell temp. the time, and the news, Lol or unless i want somthing quiter. But that dosnt matter to me. so i could go up to a person who has an angel and shoot the same accursy. i may not be able to shoot as fast but one ball a second and 20 balls a second will still keep someone pinned down. Its just that using 1 ball a sec. will save paint.Comment
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BKO, forget the Spyder. If you ar elooking into a Spyder, why not PMI Piranhas? Better quality than a Spyder on their worst day.Formerly ~WarpedRT~
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I never said it did anything. I just merely stated it was there, you know like when you list the specs of a gun.Originally posted by speeddemon
Ok, and LP does what?
They still chop paint, they aren't any more efficient. My next door neighbor has one, and had an e99 before it. I played with both, and they both played the same. He doesn't like the AMG, and is getting a mag. LP is just a myth, having your gun work on a lower pressure doesn't do anything. The design of the gun is what matters. Many people with Spyders want to go LP down the road. It may be the greatest, it may not. No one knows. It's up to the person and there money to decide that.
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i bought one for my wife because it was "pretty and blue". i took it out for the first time last weekend and i was pleasntly suprised. i thought it was a decent gun, espically at $130. and as far as the blow back goes, i didnt chop one time, not that im a god on the trigger, but it gave neither me nor my wife any problems.Originally posted by xen_100
worst gun I have ever seen. ugly and the blowback has nowhere to go but up the feedtube......chop paint like no other.Comment
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ok, lemme get a little input here since not everyone here knows as much as me and isn't saying everything there is to know in the same post.
(everything here will not be including the EM1 because its not a real spyder)
All spyders are internally the same.
All spyders have the same amount of kick(when stock)
if setup right(light spring, light hammer, higher pressure(meaning not 3-400psi)) they will have minimal kick and probably wont chop as often.
if you wanted to go lp you can do it for like 100bux(valve and regulator)
most spyders come LP stock now. all it took was a little bit of valve and verticle adaptor modifications and now they all are stock at about 3-500psi.
the em1 was discontinued because nobody wanted to pay more than like 300bux for a spyder and that seems to still continue. I'm pretty sure they will never increase in value. although right now they have nowhere to go but up. but then again same thing w/ tribals and thats been the trend for quite some time.
AMG's are great guns. they are my favorite of spyders. every time i hear someone talk crap about timmies they always say that (besides the kick and some other ignorance) they always seem to complain about how far away the frame and inline are and how they are both mounted on a circle so that they strip easily.
the amg is closer and they are both mounted to a flat body.
also, i have invented a verticle adaptor to put a regulator on an amg vertically
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