if it looks like BS, smells like BS, then its............. New shocker

[GT]

The Shocker is an open bolt, seal forward marker. Seal Forward Technology (SFT) is unique to the 2003 Shocker. SFT allows the Shocker to be an open bolt marker, while still having the breech seal a split second before the ball is fired, like a closed bolt. By sealing the breech before the ball is fired, the Shocker is able to have accuracy and trajectory like a traditional closed bolt, but also the rates of fire and simplicity of an open bolt.

from thier manual I believe.

[Yamz]

four words...
All Hype No Fact

[speeddemon]

So they put an o-ring on the front of the bolt and now its closed bolt

TK, quick, put an o-ring on the LX so we can all have the shockers amazing range and accuracy

[GT]

Originally posted by speeddemon
So they put an o-ring on the front of the bolt and now its closed bolt

that is what I thought.

[Jack & Coke]

LOL! That's sooooooooooooo lame!

Remember this?

From a Matrix Ad:

...Fires during closed-mode of bolt's travel for superior accuracy. (Statistically, the most accurate marker ever made in the History of Paintball)...

[Spaceman613]

Well, then dont blame Smart Parts. They were obviously heavily inspired by the Matrix's design, why not be inspired by the Matrix's add campaign.

[JEDI]

The Shocker is an open bolt, seal forward marker. Seal Forward Technology (SFT) is unique to the 2003 Shocker. SFT allows the Shocker to be an open bolt marker, while still having the breech seal a split second before the ball is fired, like a closed bolt. By sealing the breech before the ball is fired, the Shocker is able to have accuracy and trajectory like a traditional closed bolt, but also the rates of fire and simplicity of an open bolt.

You guys seem really infantile, bent on bashing anything non-Mag. This doesn't claim that it has BETTER accuracy or BETTER trajectory than any other gun. It just claims that it has the same as any other closed bolt gun due to its design.

There are advantages to having a sealed breech. Like better efficiency, and a lack of blowback. Anyone who has a gun that experiences blowback, knows that balls popping back up into your hopper inhibits your rate of fire. Thats why so many Cocker bolts have moved to an O-ring design.

[BetaMax]

I am gonna market my Straw as a open/closed technology with superior accuracy. The most accurate spitball gun in the history of any open and/or closed gun in the history of mankind.

The spitwad is fed into a open breach. Then place mouth on straw, creating a closed breach, giving you superior accuracy to hit anything you aim at.


Sigh

[Spaceman613]

cocker bolts going back to orings has more to due with poorly toleranced bodies and even more pathetic bolt tolerances. (but both of those did cause massive blowback when timed less than perfectly)

The quote from the Shocker manual describes an open bolt gun, but it calls it something OTHER than open bolt. Kinda like the guys from Evil calling the Omen something other than a blowback.

Oh, and I dont shoot mags... but thats a whole different story

[thecavemankevin]

Originally posted by BetaMax
I am gonna market my Straw as a open/closed technology with superior accuracy. The most accurate spitball gun in the history of any open and/or closed gun in the history of mankind.

The spitwad is fed into a open breach. Then place mouth on straw, creating a closed breach, giving you superior accuracy to hit anything you aim at.


Sigh

ah, but see sence all spitballs are not created equal there will never be the same amount of sealing. And since there is no bolt...only a puff of air from your mouth, then there is technically never any full amount of sealment (not even a word; i know) happening. Yet, if there is full sealment, ie. the spit wad being large enough in diameter on all sides to creat a perfect seal...then the wad would never go anywhere.

[JEDI]

Originally posted by Spaceman613
cocker bolts going back to orings has more to due with poorly toleranced bodies and even more pathetic bolt tolerances. (but both of those did cause massive blowback when timed less than perfectly)

The quote from the Shocker manual describes an open bolt gun, but it calls it something OTHER than open bolt. Kinda like the guys from Evil calling the Omen something other than a blowback.

Oh, and I dont shoot mags... but thats a whole different story

Right, the O-rings limit blowback. What do you mean "more to do with" I didn't imply it was meant for anything else. It takes up the slack between a bad bolt and a bad body, creating a better seal.

I dont deny that this SP statement is a bit rediculous, I'm just saying, they didn't try to push the "better" accuracy thing. They just compared it.

[hitech]

Originally posted by JEDI
...I'm just saying, they didn't try to push the "better" accuracy thing. They just compared it.

I'd say they were trying to push the better accuracy. While they are insinuating that it is more accurate, not saying it, they are certainly expecting you to infer that it is more accurate because they seal the breech.

[FutureMagOwner]

jeeze and i thought only i could make a description that long to say a 1 or 2 word phrase...

[Crighton]

So the entire SFT they are talking about consists of an o-ring on the tip of the bolt? Theres got to be more to it than that. The old school sheradin PMI-3s use a bolt tipped with an o-ring to seal the breech a split second before firing.

[Kevmaster]

i love it...sadly...most people will believe it superior (even though I cant name ONE marker that actually fires from the OPEN position...)