Matrx questions

[Kaiser Bob]

Magman + ACE Boards = flames and magic smoke! Hes fried the ACE board twice and at the moment its broken if im not mistaken.

[edweird]

you mean my ace board. :P

Oh well... let the Thread Hijacking Continue!

[DiRTyBuNNy]

....and now back to our regularly scheduled Matrix questions...

[Kaiser Bob]

im interested in matrix info too since i dont know what to do with my gun.

[edweird]

ya could just use it as a............ door stop

[USAF-Flyboy with a Mag]

Originally posted by No sKiLLz
Pulse settings need to be tuned individually depending on what mods you get. Since you say you are getting the C4, hold off on playing with the pulse settings till you have everything in. Fastest will not be the most efficient. You will need to find the middle ground preference for you, whether it be slanted one way or another.

SCM is a self adjusting LPR and a good one at that. Just like any AKA product, however, it requires a break in period. Some people (like myself) prefer to have complete control over their pressure settings, so if you are a perfectionist, you might want to stick with the PBC or maybe go mini trinity.

Upgrades for the Toxic:

Eyes (if you didn't get them)
C4
Evolve bolt kit (similar to FF but is delrin and claims better consitency)
CP or Sidewinder reg if you don't already have one or the other.
And make sure you turn your flatline down below 500. Matrix inlines are low pressure, so you can theoretically improve consistency and longevity of the inline.

Two ways to set the PBC:

Turn it in till there are 2 or three threads showing, and then slowly turn it out as you watch the velocity over a chrono until you see a drop in velocity, then screw it back in half a turn and set the set screw.

After you get used to it, you will be able to do it the easy way, which is to turn the LPR out almost all the way, and then slowly screw it in while pulling on the trigger till you hear the marker cycle (it shouldn't shoot if the LPR is turned out out). When it cycles, the bolt should stick. Don't touch the trigger when the bolt sticks, just slowly turn the LPR till you hear/see the bolt sucked back into the open breech position, give it a half turn from there, and then set the screw.

Centerflag is in up out down. If it is all the way in and you are not at 300 fps, take the spring cap off and stick a dime in it. It will act as a spacer to compress the spring enough to get another 20 or so FPS.

Congrats on swallowing the red pill. (if you don't get that, watch the first Matrix movie).

...The Matrix God has spoken

[manike]

Magman007 did you get eyes?

If not, that should be one of the first upgrades you look to get in my opinion.

I was shooting Max Lundqvist's NYX gun the other weekend and it's awesome with eyes and a Halo B on top. Real nice gun to shoot and a lovely stream of paint out the end of it!!!

I've heard good things about all the different eyes you can get. But I've only really used the Egi eyes (which come on the NYX guns). Egi is a friend of mine and has been making a good product in his eye systems for quite a while. I recomend them!

The Evolve kit is made by another friend of mine (PeeGee) and although I've not used a gun to empty a whole tank with it in place, it has a great following around here and from what I have seen/heard from people I trust, it makes a big improvement to efficiency.

Manike (the first person EVER shot by the electronic Matrix, back at Skyball 2000!)

[No sKiLLz]

Matrix God? Maybe tomorrow night as I lay sloshed in a strip club in Vegas somewhere (the 20th is my B-day)I will be closer to deity status. But Rob and I are planning for probably not next weekend, but the first weekend in October. I'll shoot u out an E-mail B4 we go.

The Egi eye and Xtreme board are incredible. I wish I knew more about it, but he keeps his voodoo under wraps, so I can't get technical about it, but it is definitely a clear step above the stock electronics with gun 20 chip.

Unfortunately it is only available IN the NYX. Flip Flops has a new eye, break beam, I hear it's good quality. If you buy the Gen-E eye you will get a very clean set up with a two piece breech, but I think the price tag on both is a bit hard to swallow if you had to scrape to get the Toxic. Save your pennies for a while because Jim over at WAS is working on an Equalizer board and eye set up for the Matrix. He claims the current eye placement is capping ROF, so I'm anxious to see what he comes up with.

BTW, Manike, I don't know if you saw Lundqvist in Chicago, but he posted in PB Nation, I think, that with the very same NYX you held he shot a 30.6 bps burst over the chrono.

As far as the Evolve goes, from what the website stated they would include the Delrin until they ran out, then it would have to be purchased seperately. Is that the case or have they completely run out?

BTW, Dan, I saw you mention not getting Todds Matrix. Were you going to pick up the NYX instead?

[yeahthatsme]

well last time i heard(it was a little while back so things could have changed) evolve wasnt selling the delrin bolt/stem with the kit...but like i said things could have changed.

[manike]

Originally posted by No sKiLLz
The Egi eye and Xtreme board are incredible. I wish I knew more about it, but he keeps his voodoo under wraps, so I can't get technical about it, but it is definitely a clear step above the stock electronics with gun 20 chip.

Ah, one of the benefits of knowing him well and having played with him at World Cup last year (when he was secretly testing this out ) You know he has now gone to work for Dye in California? Egi rocks. Great guy.

Originally posted by No sKiLLz
Jim over at WAS is working on an Equalizer board and eye set up for the Matrix. He claims the current eye placement is capping ROF, so I'm anxious to see what he comes up with.

Of course he is. He always puts down other people's
products in order to sell his own. A lot of the time the stuff he says about other people's products is ABSOLUTELY BS. He will however make a very good board and product for the Matrix, of that I have no doubt. Just make sure you buy it for the real performance and not the hype, BS, or badmouthing he does of other people's products.

Originally posted by No sKiLLz
BTW, Manike, I don't know if you saw Lundqvist in Chicago, but he posted in PB Nation, I think, that with the very same NYX you held he shot a 30.6 bps burst over the chrono.

I saw him in Philly and just last weekend in London at CC. I didn't know he had shot a string that fast! but I do know they are working as hard as possible to get the most speed and best performance out of those guns. All of the ones I have tried were rocking!

Originally posted by No sKiLLz
As far as the Evolve goes, from what the website stated they would include the Delrin until they ran out, then it would have to be purchased seperately. Is that the case or have they completely run out?

I'm sorry but I don't know. If I see PeeGee anytime soon I will ask him. I know originally the delrin bolts were made as a tester which is why they were letting people test them for free. I'm not sure if they have been proven out or what now.

[Load SM5]

At the risk of sounding really stupid. Why is so much value placed on the eye in a Matrix? I'm a shiney brand new owner of a LCD from TMS, (picking it up Staurday) but I held off on an eye because I was sure chopping would be a rare thing with a HALO B as long as I watched the last few balls in the hopper. Is there something about the design I'm not aware of that would make chopping more of a concern than just keeping it well fed?

There are 4 eyeless Matrixes at my field and they rarely seem to chop, and only those guys with Eggs or the last few balls in their HALO's.

[manike]

Load the best thing is that the eye controls the whole timing of the gun.

It's not just for stopping chops, which as you say are rare with a Halo B. It's so you can extract every ounce of speed and performance out of the gun.

If your load time is 45ms and it actually only takes 20ms with the Halo B, yes you will never chop, but you are wasting 20ms which makes a huge difference to the ROF you can achieve...

The use of eyes (when done correctly) is not just about avoiding chops. It's about performance!

[Load SM5]

Ah...thanks. I see now. This would be the first gun I've ever had to worry about timing. Eye will definately be my next upgrade. Where do you go to look into the Egi eye?

[pito189]

Are the efficiency numbers you read about (2000 shots to a 68/4500) real or in a perfect controlled envoirnment.

If those numbers are real, what bolt kit is getting those numbers?

[DiRTyBuNNy]

You know he has now gone to work for Dye in California? Egi rocks. Great guy.

Yeah..I'm sure Dave has got him working in his secret test kitchen (the nice thing about living not far from Dye is that a lot of people have loose lips regarding new product..heheheehe)