Top 3 "thing" that are detrimental to paintball.

[FreshmanBob]

Originally posted by kosmo

#1. COST I dont see how you can argue with this. It is absolutely impossible. How many people do you all know that either cant or dont play because its expensive? That vandalism stuff has almost no bearing on pb when considered against cost. Almost all paintball related problems extend from this. Not having enough fields. New people not taking up the sport after their first time playing. Not being on TV because its not profitable enough to the companies that would show it... Etc Etc Etc

Cost? Dude, 5 years ago the cheapest case of paint was around 70 bucks and 5 years before that it was well over 100 bucks. Now anyone can get a case for between 35 and 45 bucks off the internet, not mention a good mask co2 tank and semi for under 200 bucks.

The cost of paintball has gone waaaay down and gets better as the sport grows.

[adam shannon]

Originally posted by Crighton
I'm just curious but why hasn't anyone developed paint that shows up under UV? Player wipes it. Ref comes over and does his paint check with a portable UV light. Even if he wiped it really well the residue would show under UV.

Cops use them all the time.

you have a valid point, and im not flaming you...but what does it say about a sport..a game, when the refs need to be inspector gadget just to keep the game honest.

[Fred]

the UV paint could work, if they players had a different outfit for every game they played... legitimate hits from earlier in the day could be called as a wipe for the current game...

I really would like to see an enforceable penalty system installed, with no exceptions. you wipe, you and your team are summarily kicked, your points revoked, and you're banned for the season... second offense, kick em permanently.

the way blatant cheaters like the black ninja can get back into the game disgusts me... and until things look a little more honorable, I'm not planning on getting into any serious tourney competition.

---Fred

[GT]

Originally posted by kosmo
[B]

As a sworn member of the U.S. Army, a firm believer in the constitution and the right to freedom of speech contained within, and someone who gets really pissed off sometimes, this is all I have to say about your idea: Screw that.

[elpimpo]

Originally posted by adam shannon
you forgot pb will never make it to tv until cheating stops and on field fights with refs are controlled.

id like to say stfu you guys who preach this crap are a bunch of freaking rec ballers who dont even know what tourney ball is. its going to happen. every sport people cheat. you dont get all but hurt when somebody holds in football and a reff doesnt catch it. players get pennalized in paintball for cheating as well as any other sport. so just shut up

[kosmo]

First off, a paintball field is not an elementary school. I dont go to elementary school to relieve stress or get an adrenaline rush. And youre right, its not Blackhawk Down, its a sport. Ever listen on ESPN when they mic the football players? You think theyre being "nice" to each other on the lines? If youve got a problem with some brat yelling that someones f'n out or whatever, shoot him. Cant talk in the dead box. Thats the point of competition, putting your money where your mouth is. I will not stand idly by and watch paintball turned into golf on CBS. Paintball is an engaging and very emotional sport, and turning it into a dainty pansy-fest would in my mind be detrimental to what the sport is and should be.

[elpimpo]

Originally posted by Fred
I really would like to see an enforceable penalty system installed, with no exceptions. you wipe, you and your team are summarily kicked, your points revoked, and you're banned for the season... second offense, kick em permanently.

the way blatant cheaters like the black ninja can get back into the game disgusts me... and until things look a little more honorable, I'm not planning on getting into any serious tourney competition.

---Fred

thats so incredibley homosexual of you to say. obviously u dont play any other sports and you play rec ball. it happens deal with it. evry sport does it. there are inforced penalties like in every other sport. u guys just need to cowboy up and shut up

[FutureMagOwner]

people shutup with the childish name callings.

the fact is fred is on the right track with enforcement. if a player cheats in the oylmpics or of baseball or whatever the player is the one who should ge in trouble not the whole team is my belief.

[Fred]

Originally posted by elpimpo


thats so incredibley homosexual of you to say. obviously u dont play any other sports and you play rec ball.

Gee, what a convincing argument... can I save this one for future reference? spoken like a true TWIB.

Originally posted by elpimpo
it happens deal with it. evry sport does it. there are inforced penalties like in every other sport. u guys just need to cowboy up and shut up

Actually, in another sport, lets say... car racing... if a team cheats in order to make their car win unfairly, and they're caught at it, they face BIG fines, banning, and they get smeared so bad that they're pretty much done racing.

If a runner or other athlete is caught cheating using performance enhancers to win, theyre done. period. reputation is tarneshed and no one with a good rep will go near them to avoid guilt by association.

If you think cheating will continue to be a part of the sport, and it won't go away so I should just deal with it, YOU are the problem.

---Fred

[GT]

Originally posted by kosmo
Ever listen on ESPN when they mic the football players? You think theyre being "nice" to each other on the lines?

If youve got a problem with some brat yelling that someones f'n out or whatever, shoot him.

Cant talk in the dead box. Thats the point of competition, putting your money where your mouth is. I will not stand idly by and watch paintball turned into golf on CBS.

Paintball is an engaging and very emotional sport, and turning it into a dainty pansy-fest would in my mind be detrimental to what the sport is and should be.

[Fred]

as for cussing in football, college and pro football players are playing with their peers... there are no 10 year olds on the field playing alongside adults... in paintball that happens every weekend, across the country.

i'd suggest you broaden your vocabulary if you can't express your emotions without a 4 letter curse...

[the_next_guy_]

kevmaster, I run cross country and there is a ton of cheating: pushing, kicking, running off the course...

[Carbon]

Thats great yall... back to the topic at hand, top 3 things that are detrimental to the proliferation of paintball.


2) Jerk, elitist, chicken-hawking
players, the kind that ruins it for the 1st time rentals...and everyone else.

In anycase, if there werent us "freaking rec ballers" there would be no tourney. Rec ball is the heart and the backbone of the industry, and it will be for years to come. When it comes to tourney, for the most part, paintball become a bussiness venture, unfortunately.

[elpimpo]

i agree that rec ballers keep it a live but they dont play tourneys so they have no clue what there talking about when they talk about wiping

[Carbon]

So what is it that were talkin about when we talk about tourny players? Straight questions elpimpo...no disrespect.

-Do you wipe when you play tourney?

-Do you consider yourself a cheater?

-If you can please elaborate, on how as a tourney player you would, if possible elimniate/ drasticaly reduce cheating.

So as a tourneyplayer fill us rec ballers in: on what we dont know about regarding/playing tourneys. Stuff about playing the "grey area" The whole, "its the reffs responsibility to call the hit". And the whole everybodys doing it axiom.

And once agin im not pickin on ya, or dissing. I just wan to know what your whole prespective is on this whole matter, hope fully without people flaming ya.

word.