wut do u think the bigger adreniline rush is..hunting..or paintball

[MantisMag]

since it's been so long since my first post and i'm sure some of you missed, it i'd like to clarify my position. i am not against hunting and i don't think it's easy. the original question was about getting an adrenaline rush. i don't see myself getting one from hunting. same as albinonewt. i'm not in any danger. most of the animals you hunt don't fight back. adrenaline is a response to danger or at least the illusion of danger. no danger, no adrenaline.

[RRfireblade]

Well this is,as with many discussions,full of both extremes.

The simple question is which gives you more of an adrenalin rush.There are only 1 of 2 answers.To debate the merits of Hunting is unneeded and will never change anyone's opinions.

For the record mine are:

I HAVE hunted and most often with a bow.I personally don't find it much of a challenge,I shoot 3D comps and shooting 40 or more arrows a morning,on a 80lb draw at a 12 ring(silver dollar)of unknown distance,windage and elevation is much more difficult.

I'm in good shape so hiking around the woods are not a challenge for me.I also consider myself more intelligent than the average animal,so the "hunt" is mearly a case of executing tact and superior knowledge,again,not a challenge.

As far as that is concerned,I don't find hunting to be a sport at all,I feel it's mostly a skill.As in you don't really have to be in shape,out hunt another hunter trying to out hunt you or have any high mark of evaluation to judge yourself by.(I don't count a big buck 'cause that's purely luck if you come across one at all)

So if one gets a "Rush" from hunting,good for you,enjoy it.For me,I prefer to pursue other means of excitement.

Please save the arguements for a time and place when it might make a difference,let's just all play paintball,that's how we got here in the first place,right?

Jay.

[gadget68]

Mantis...FEAR is the natural response to danger. Adrenaline is the by product (chemical Reaction) that allows you to handle yourself and make you go that extra bit. AKA "the Rush"

[Konigballer]

Nero_Wolf I agree that hunting is a challenge and a test of skill, but a challenge is not a sport. A sport is about COMPETITION. I dont know why this is hard to understand. Football, baseball, paintball, track..their all competitions. Competitions that are won or lost between teams/individuals of skilled competitors. Their is no competition from most of the animals that people hunt. They do not pose threat equal to the one you pose them. Even dangerous big game animals pose far less a threat to a skilled hunter equiped with modern firearms than vice versa. We are not living three hundred years ago, technological improvements have all but eliminated risk when hunting most animals. In case you didnt notice, animals arent that smart. Every reaction they have comes from instincts....its kind of one sided which is why its not a sport. I'm from Tennessee and I like guns plenty. I've been hunting and brought down deer and rabbit, but I just dont see the point unless you have no other means to put food on the table. It was "thrilling" to do it but its not a sport by any stretch of the imagination.

Pacifist_Hunter, read closley...I believe hunting is a test of endurance and skill.

However, I'm debating the fact that hunting is not a sport, nothinng else. Of course running is a sport, its a COMPETITION!! A competition between other EQUALLY SKILLED OPPONENTS who pose a threat and can beat you in that competition. Jeezuz, the fact that your "running up and down mountains all day with 20 pounds of clothing and or gear" has nothing to do with olympic track and fireld competitions. Thats not a sport, its a test of endurence, if you were to go up against equall opponents when you hiked up mountains then that would be a sport, a competitive event. It has nothing to do with "this is harder than that", sports are defined as competitive events. If I wanna chuck cinder blocks all day by myself then thats a test of endurence. It would be hard sure, but its not a sport until you compete with other people. If your able to be "magical" by dropping dear at 300 yards then thats great. I've shot many a 357., 44. and I'd say if you can bring down dear then you are indeed a skilled hunter. However, you werent in a equal competition with that dear. I doubt he had a trusty Smith & Wesson by his side like you did. A dear cant beat you in hunting by shooting you first, it can only run away to live another day. Thats not winning. I've outlined my definition of "sport" and why hunting is not one about as clear as I can.

I love eating animals, they're delicious!! I have no problem buying meat at the grocery store. My thing is that you cant go out and kill something of much lower intelligence that poses far less a threat to you than vice versa and call it a sport. I've got no problem with yummy cows being killed at the slaughter house. As long as they dont call it a sport. The fact that I can go out and buy meat at a grocery store, from an animal thats already dead, is precisley the reason I dont go out to the woods and blow away something thats still living. It would'nt be necessary. GO hunt, blow away everything you see if thats your thing. Just dont call it a sport.

[gadget68]

Konigballer,
Before you go and give a definition please look it up. Pay close attention to Definition #1-A. Straight from Websters dictionary. I guess you must work for them? Because you are throwing out all sorts of educated guesses on if hunting is a sport or not. I guess this should put an end to that debate.





10 entries found for hunt.
To select an entry, click on it.
hunt[1,verb]hunt[2,noun]HuntHunt[1]hunt-and-peckscavenger huntstill-huntstill huntwitch-huntHolman-Hunt

Main Entry: 1hunt
Pronunciation: 'h&nt
Function: verb
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English huntian; akin to Old English hentan to seize
Date: before 12th century
transitive senses
1 a : to pursue for food or in sport b : to manage in the search for game
2 a : to pursue with intent to capture b : to search out : SEEK
3 : to drive or chase especially by harrying
4 : to traverse in search of prey
intransitive senses
1 : to take part in a hunt
2 : to attempt to find something
3 : to oscillate alternately to each side (as of a neutral point) or to run alternately faster and slower -- used especially of a device or machine

[Albinonewt]

[MantisMag]

Originally posted by gadget68
Mantis...FEAR is the natural response to danger. Adrenaline is the by product (chemical Reaction) that allows you to handle yourself and make you go that extra bit. AKA "the Rush"

ok but what's your point? adrenaline is not a "byproduct". adrenaline is produced in order to deal with whatever caused the fear. A leads to B leads to C. if i say A leads to C that's wrong? i really don't see why you posted what you did.

[Konigballer]

gadget68, your definition of the word "sport" is interesting because it dates from before the 12th century.

U know hunting in the 12th century when the word originated was probably fairly "sporting" because people were often mauled or killed by big game prey like wild boars, bears, wolves, etc. This is due to the use of hunting tools they had at the time, primitive bows, spears, nets and knives. Throw in a noticable lack of advanced camoflauge sytems and you begin to see how hunting was'nt such a onesided event long, long, long ago.

Its also interesting how the definition and meaning of words can change and evolve over the course of say 800 years or more. Medieval jousting wasnt even called a sport at the time, and that was about as balanced a competition between equal opponents as you could get back then. It was referred to as "the games", as in a "game of jousting".

You see, definitions and meanings of words can evolve. The meaning of the word "sport" has evolved ,from your very old 12th origin def, to the modern meaning shown by Albinonewt.

[gadget68]

Konigballer,

First off.....I did not define the word "SPORT" I defined "HUNT". Thus bringing to this forum a deffinition of "HUNT" as per WEBSTERS 2003 edition. No matter how old a word is or how it evolves the root of the meaning still is adheared to even in todays world.



Mantis,

adrenaline is a response to danger or at least the illusion of danger. no danger, no adrenaline.

I simply was stating that "FEAR" should be used in your sentence instead of "Adrenaline". Fear is a good thing. It triggers our Adrenaline to kick in and opens our senses to be hightened. Haven't you ever watched a horror movie where you were so involved in it that the slightest noise in the house got your attention. That is what I am stating. I was not meaning to disrespect your post just thought I was clarifying it a bit.

[Pacifist_Farmer]

all this and I signed on for paintball

life truely is grand

I see both sides of everybodies arguement, I just like mine more

[laxster08]

eveyrone is making good points

wow i didn't think this thread would get this big haha...n e ways...huntin is a challenge...and...a sport..u speak of competition...man vs. deer...therse ur comp..and deer usually win...unless there does...does are just stupid..and not a challenge..but bucks..bucks are a challenge

[UltimatePaintballer]

never been hunting would like to at least once, but right now i would have to say paintballing. when you go the first couple of times, its awesome. Now after going awhile it has gone down but its sill there especially when your in the front and there is an opponent two feet in front of you

[Snapps]

Im too nice of a guy to kill an animal, unless its a fooogly beast like the moose that continues to haunt my house and take a piss in my yard...
But its nice to escape hectic life and go out and live, of course its also nice to go out and have a blast playing paintball, but i would expect hunting is more about relaxing than having an andrenaline rush like paintball...

[~WarpedRT#2~]

The only time I went hunting, I actually put a squirrel in my cross hair, and almost pulled the trigger. But watching the tiny animal as it went about it's normal morning routine, I realized that nature is too beautiful to destroy. Hunting just isn't for me. I didn't get any kind of rush seeing animals close up, nor would I if I shot one. If I hit an animal in my car, I feel bad for it. It had no reason to die, and I had no right to kill it. Heres what I don't understand. Hunters feel like they have the right to kill another animal. But when a bear, or deer attacks a person, it MUST DIE. It attacked a human, and must die for it's mistake. How is this right? We are only animals too.

RetroEclipseMan, I stated before, that I have been hunting before. Believe me, I've been up far earlier than 5 or 6. I had to get up at 3 to get to Shanterball, and I didn't go to sleep until about 10 that night.(Cyberious can correct me if I'm wrong) But if you really want me to, I'll take a picture of some of these WWII pill box tree stands that Keystone sells. Plenty of hunters around here pack those things full of stuff to keep someone alive for a few weeks for one day. Every once in a while, they look out the blind to see if they see or hear anything, and go back to watching tv. See something? BLAST AWAY!

I however, think bow hunting is very difficult. Alot of my friends bow hunt, and to get an animal, you really have to be very close. I think this is more fair than a rifle, since humans have been using bows for a very long time. It's not a new technology, and there is a real amount of skill involved in shooting, and hitting a target with a bow. But still, like I told Nerowolfe, if you eat everything you can, use the fur for clothing, and use the horns for buttons, then I think it's alright. But I don't think it's right for ME.

Hunting is a sport. Many magazines call them that, and what better to display societies views of an activity than a magazine? It's actually "sporting" to shoot coyotes with pistols. I don't see how that is right at all, but people do.

About my food chain theory, and my personal thoughts, yes, I know they conflict, but that is just how I am. I see both sides of things like this, and I understand them both. I just happen to favor one side more. Like I said before, the other people in my head have a say too.

[Konigballer]

well at least we all like paintball...theres something we agree on.