Why do people think mags are heavy?

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  • rikkter
    • Jun 2002
    • 1804

    #31
    lol, i just wanted to see if he'd doo it
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    • RenagadeOfFunkRTPcf
      A.K.A FunK WanG
      • Aug 2003
      • 2302

      #32
      damn stright....i need a drop forward for my battery ....hell i need a car batery ....hell....my mag is lighter than a car battery......damn your analogy sucks...
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      • rikkter
        • Jun 2002
        • 1804

        #33
        my analogy wasn't even comparing the weight of a car battery to the weight of a emag
        it was your analogy about their strength due to their genital size(like that analogy was even any better)
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        • rdb123
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          • Oct 2002
          • 1507

          #34
          My SFL E-mag setup is pretty heavy too:

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          • RenagadeOfFunkRTPcf
            A.K.A FunK WanG
            • Aug 2003
            • 2302

            #35
            who says im a dude?..girls play paintball...
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            • Schnitzel
              'Saurus'
              • May 2002
              • 754

              #36
              i just weighed my setup...

              ule emag(ule rail, gripframe, xvalve)
              12" J&J
              SS warp body
              68/45
              warp
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              7lbs 12oz(empty)

              anybody got the same setup as me and can beat that weight?

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              • Evil Bob
                Evil Overlord
                • Jul 2001
                • 1217

                #37
                Lighter isn't necessarily better, there comes a point where you trade off accuracy for weight.

                Yes, a lighter setup allows you to snapshoot faster, this is basic physics, the smaller the mass, the less force it takes to move said mass. This same principal also works against you , it takes less hammering on the trigger to affect the position of the barrel tip, which will induce inaccuracy.

                A real world example is match grade barrels for competition shooting, they're very heavy, easily 2x-3x what one would normally carry out on a hunting trip, they are that way be design. The heavier the barrel, the more stable it is. Long range shooting matches are won and lost based upon breathing technics (your chest expanding will change your point of aim), trigger pulling techiniques (slow steady squeeze vs a quick yank), and timing your heart rate (yes, your pulse rate and systolic pressure can affect your accuracy, that's why competition shooters wear those big bulky shooting vests, to insulate against the subtle body movements caused by blood flowing through their veins and arteries).

                Having more mass will create a more stable shooting platform, especially for long balling, you will be more accurate with a rig that is more forgiving of slight body movements. But again, there is a tradeoff, it's possible to have a platform so stable you can't pick it up (we usually call them "tank").

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                • rikkter
                  • Jun 2002
                  • 1804

                  #38
                  Originally posted by RenagadeOfFunkRTPcf
                  who says im a dude?..girls play paintball...
                  are you saying your a girl? i know girls do, hell, one of my closet friends play, and shes a girl. i was just saying your analogy was as bad as mine, not trying to start anything, it sjust all fun

                  i agree evil, but with paintball, their not all that accurate to begin with. i'd rather have a small spuratic area paint is covering than just one spot, more paint in more space more likely going to hit someone out in the open(scenario wise). but in speedball i see the point, but your so close to each other anyways.
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                  • GoatBoy
                    Junior Mint
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 1399

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Ov3rmind

                    A heavy gun will slow down your snap shooting, reguardless of strength. Slower snapshooting is bad for front players. Besides, a light gun is just more convenient to carry around, even if a heavier one doesn't tire your arm.
                    Some of this has been mentioned, but in my own view...

                    The weight of the gun does not seem to make that much of a bearing on most "snap shooting". It seems to me that most of the time the gun is propped up against the body for these shots. For aiming and such, it's easier to lock the gun into position and use your shoulders/torso for adjustments. I think there are certain... diminishing returns from being so singularly focused on gun weight considering how much other body mass you need to control in order to get the shot.

                    It's not PC, but I think toyotaboy12's comment is somewhat... spot on.

                    However, I can say that there are specific situations where the weight/distribution does matter... Like, say, one-handed shooting situations, usually involving being really low to the ground. And like, getting in and out of these positions.


                    And, not to hijack the thread, but... This is something I've been pondering for a while now. I think it'd be interesting to see what kind of body type is best for paintball. You obviously don't want to be too large, even if you're all musclebound, because that just makes you a bigger target, but then again, you don't want to be too small, like, say, all these children that play paintball, because then the weight of the gun+pods becomes like a significant percentage of their total weight. I'm sure the most vocal complainers of equipment weight come from this group. Same goes for proportions, like big and lanky vs. short and stubby, etc.

                    Just a thought.
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                    • Z-man
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                      • Jul 2001
                      • 2202

                      #40
                      The Reason!

                      Why do people think Mags are heavy? Because they saw this one that I love so much.


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