Paintball players with paintball jerseys look like an ad with legs.

[Athius]

damn i was just givin my opinion but what the hell.

i think PB companies must stop puting their big logos on their jerseys cuz well maybe a team would like to put their team logo on the front. But with a big logo saying for example "32 DEEGREES PAINTBALL" u cant do that but if u are a pro and sponsored i understand that but a normal player non sponsored doesnt make sense.

[LeatherPants]

Now yea I admit that I have all the "cool" stuff. Anything new well hey I'll buy it. I change guns alot. I change gear as fast as it comes out.....I'll admit it hey so what.

Now am I a good player? Who knows. I compete. I do well. I have fun.

Do I want to be a pro? No. I have a career and I make good money doing it.

Paintball to me is a hobby. And I like hobbies. But I go all out on my hobbies. No matter what it is I'll get the best and I'm good at all my hobbies.

Now do I wear all DYE stuff to look pro? no. I honestly find it comfortable. I stared off in BDUs and found them to be too hot. My first jersey was a System X one that I got for $10 and you know what, I found them real comfortable. Since then yea I buy alot of jersys. I play mostly speedball now and I like the way the fit and the way they breathe. I also wear alot of UNDERARMOUR clothing when I play because I find that comfortable too. I don't wear JT, PJ or Raven cuz hey I don't like the way they look.

Now lots of teams are sponsored but many of they had to pay their own way before a sponsor even looked at them. Naughty Dogs and Bushwhackers barely started picking up sponsors till they started doing really well this season. Hey they paid for all their own gear in the begining so does that mean they sucked?

Also some of the players who are good. Were they always that good or the fact sponsor help allows them to play and afford 2-3 day of paintball a week. Like any sport some players are just good and some learn in practice.

All of you would agree that if you could afford both time and money to play 3 times a week you'd be a pretty good player.

Syntax- You said that some teams can barely make it in everyday lives but can chew you up on the field...well that is their choice. Practice makes perfect and practice takes time and time is money. Most 9-5 career jobs don't allow the time to practice paintball. And most jobs that are not 9-5 usually don't pay too well.

Most of the guys who are "Pro" made the choice to rely on sponsors for income. Most of them don't have great jobs since most jobs are not to happy with you taking sick days to go practice paintball.

I don't think I'll ever get sponsored and nor do I want to. I've been that route with another hobby and you know what it took some of the fun out of it. Right now I get to wear what I want, shoot what I want and compete when I want. I think that is what most players are happy with.

Wow I don't think any of that made sence or tied in well but oh well it's late.

[GoatBoy]

Originally posted by Trina
I had a response, but the more I read...this thread doesn't deserve a response...

So by posting a response in a thread that doesn't deserve a response, did you actually reverse your stance and decide it did deserve a response?

Albinonewt: OK, while I disagree with the... "spirit" of the usage of the word, I'll concede the technical point on that one.



As you can tell, some people go to great lengths to try to look cool to other people. Which is fine, I can understand that. Unfortunately, they take it so far as to take great offense if anyone disagrees with their dubious fashion sense. They take it so far as to attempt to link someone's sense of style with someone's ability to play paintball. And of course the whole rec/tournament argument ALWAYS ensues any discussion of skill. Actually it accompanies ANY discusssion about nearly any subjective topic in paintball. I mean, we're talking about JERSEYS and the tournament snobbery comes out.

In fact, I believe Squid went even further than that, calling me an idiot. So obviously if I think jerseys look goofy, then I'm an idiot. And I think Squid thinks we're all idiots if he thinks he can back out of a statement like, " Can tell somebody only plays rec..." You think the rest of the guys in here failed reading comprehension? We know exactly what you meant.

So do tournaments require jerseys nowadays? If not, then I'm pretty sure I didn't call everyone who plays tournaments a clown. I also happen to see a lot of jerseys being worn when I play recball. I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. Then again, I think I saw a lot of "tournament" players this weekend playing in just plain white t-shirts. Then there was this one guy who was wearing a JT jersey and camo shorts, and said that he was a scenario team player. Plus I have been known to play airball with the "tournament players." I just see it all as recball. I guess I have to pay some sort of entry fee to get any sort of recognition in the eyes of the other jobless ballers, regardless of my actual playing skills.

Squid, again, your revised argument doesn't faze me, because you don't know me from Jack. Trying to draw a correlation between my playing skills and my opinions on jerseys is about as accurate, as, say, me trying to draw a correlation between your lack of ability to present a coherent argument (or anything more insightful than ""OMG YOU RECBALLAR!!!!11" or "U R AN IDIOT MY TEAM WILL TEAR U UP!!!") and your paintball skills.


In tagging along with the other comments, I guess I'll say that I'm gainfully employed. I pay my own way in paintball, and I don't have to answer to anyone. If someone hands me an ugly jersey to wear, I have the option of handing it back to them with a large brown skid mark on it. Bringing things back on topic, as you can see, most of the guys here who are trying to make a point about the jerseys are self-sponsored players. Meaning they pay for their stuff. Meaning a lot of them are looking at these jerseys and saying, "You want me to pay how much for what?!" They might buy them because they are comfy (and/or on the cheap), but I'm betting they aren't buying them for the flashy logos.





In conclusion, most paintball jerseys are tacky and ugly. Now it is my intention to sit down and play video games for several hours.

[Trina]

Originally posted by Konigballer
I never look at a new marker in a magazine and think to myself "man all the ladies are gonna' be beggin' to try out this sweet new Timmy( and maybe the owner". In reality, the only people I expect to want to shoot a nice new marker, or care that I have it, is the usual two stereotypical pb guys: the fat guy with the gotee, or the skinny 15 year old punk who thinkgs he knows everything. Not exactly the people you hoped you would attract like you would with a slick new porsche. I dont know, at least it gives me a laugh. What do you guys think?

BTW, yes Goatboy...I finally thought I'd respond to this thread especially after reading the comments above...

The advertising is not designed to sell you a gun...it's main goal is to catch your eyes--and it works, so companies use it. Although...I do LOVE a sexy marker...If I see an XMag with a cool fade pattern I drool...now IF I was single and playing paintball (more girls ARE getting into the sport) I'd be all over that guy asking questions about his "marker"--it would make for a great conversation.

And about the jersey thing...I like my lavender paintball junkie jersey cuz for one thing it is cool and also it took me forever to find a feminine jersey. I also like having my name on it so that people know how to call me instead of "hey you". I should be able to spend my own money that I work hard for on whatever the heck I want without having someone talk about it. It has nothing to do with skill level or anything else for that matter. I like cool paintball clothes...quite frankly I was in the Army for five years and camo isn't quite my color anyway...

[Python14]

What if I like the way I look in red dye clothes? It brings attention to myself, which is why I've been asked by several times by local teams to play for them. I like to look good and paintball is one of the few things that I can do it in. So let me spend my money, without telling me reasons I look like a clown, because frankly, my friends and girlfriend don't think I look like a clown.

[DyNasTy]

hey

You want a short and simple reason why people spend thier money on these jerseys...

INTIMIDATION or Just because they wanna look like the big boys they see in the magazine.

I mean common face it, who here doesnt buy the nicest gear to look good for spectators or doesnt try to find matching equipment to look good on the field. Its just common ssense. No one would wear some camo to a speedball tourny cause it would look dumb. And plus the team ur playing would treat u how you look. Dress professional and u earn some respect is what it boils down 2. Dress like a newb get treated like a newb.

[Grasshopper]

I wear my jersey because it's comfy, and I don't care if it's plastered with "ads", I like the way it looks. No, I'm not trying to be cool by wearing it, I just like the way it looks and feels.

[GoatBoy]

Trina and Grasshopper present perfectly valid arguments. If that's what you like, then that's your right. I'm clearly not stopping anyone from buying/wearing them. But I reserve the right to think jerseys look bad just as these tournament hypocrites have the right to think camo would look "dumb" in their precious tournament scene.

Python14: If you're looking to bring attention to yourself, you might want to consider the possibility that it's not always going to be the kind of attention you wanted.

DyNasTy: Call me old-fashioned, but any respect you get from what you wear is hardly what I consider "earned". And what exactly do you mean by "get treated like a newb"? Do professionals (or professional wannabe's) get %15 off field fee and paint or something? If a player disrespects me, what difference does that make on the playing field in a properly reffed game? If he underestimates me and thinks I'm a newb, how does that affect the outcome of a game? Are you sure you're using common sense on this one? Think carefully, because there are threads on this forum if I recall correctly that directly deal with these questions.

[breg]

Ok,
I didn't read the whole thread, so don't jump all over me with the proverbal "Why didn't you read the whole thread," comments.

First off, how many pieces of clothing do you own? Look closely, most of the have the logo somewhere on them. Even our underwear have the logos on them. Even a pair of Levi's Jeans have the little red tad and the embrodering on the back pockets.

Second off, yes, the clothing is designed to show off the logo. I think that doing so shows faith in the product. And, aside from magazines, that is the only other viable form of advertising the the manufacturers have. I believe that some one had mentioned before.

Thridly, look at autoracing. How many logos do you see on the racecars? More than two? Sponsors want everybody to know what gear their favorite team is using.

There's more, but I am really tired....

[Trina]

Is there any reason for name calling? Anytime someone is presenting an opinion, there's always going to be someone else that doesn't like it. But let's try to be civil here. We all share one thing in common-- paintball. I think that's the coolest, and that's why we're here. No reason to bash any type of play or player.

[Albinonewt]

Frankly, I prefer Jersey's to camo in tournaments and in the woods because I want to be easier to spot. If I'm hard to see that means I need to go find my opponents to shoot them. If I'm easy to see they'll come to me, and so much the better. It's for that same reason I prefer loud guns to quiet guns.

Also, I have no problem walking around with a companies Logo on my chest, so long as it's a company I like. I like nearly everything I've purchased from JT and Empire, so I have no problem walking around with their logo on me. That lets other people, especially newbs, know who I think you should buy your gear from. It's for that reason that I won't wear a Smart Parts or (in most cases) Dye Jersey to the field.

[-=Squid=-]

Originally posted by Trina
Is there any reason for name calling? Anytime someone is presenting an opinion, there's always going to be someone else that doesn't like it. But let's try to be civil here. We all share one thing in common-- paintball. I think that's the coolest, and that's why we're here. No reason to bash any type of play or player.

There is always room for name calling, especially when somebody is being an idiot. No, im not talking about you, im on your side

[SlartyBartFast]

Originally posted by -=Squid=-
There is always room for name calling, especially when somebody is being an idiot. No, im not talking about you, im on your side

It's really bizzare that you're talking about yourself. Not sure I'd want you to be on my side.

In a matter of personal opinion, what right do you have to call anyone an idiot?

[deathstalker]

I wear earthy-colored JT jersies (black, olive, and rust) on the field because they are extremely comfortable, stand up to wear and tear, and still allow me to not draw too much attention. When I wear them off the field, I hope to get people asking about it. It's the same reason most of my t-shirts are paintball-related: I want people to ask me about them so I can talk to them about the game, dispel myths and misconceptions, and generate more interest.

I choose to advertise that I play paintball, not necessarily the company making the products I wear.

Originally posted by DyNasTy
I mean common face it, who here doesnt buy the nicest gear to look good for spectators or doesnt try to find matching equipment to look good on the field. Its just common ssense.

I suggest you take a Social Psychology class. One of the first things you will learn is that there is no such thing as common sense. People who think they have/use what is commonly referred to as 'common sense' usually base their thoughts and actions on assumptions, false logic, and misinformed/uninformed decisions.

[SlartyBartFast]

Originally posted by deathstalker
I choose to advertise that I play paintball, not necessarily the company making the products I wear.

Cool.

Now given a choice would you prefer a non-product/manufacturer specific jersey or one that clearly advertises a particular product or brand?