Paintball players with paintball jerseys look like an ad with legs.

**SlartyBartFast** · 10-07-2003, 10:11 AM

Originally posted by breg
Even a pair of Levi's Jeans have the little red tad and the embrodering on the back pockets.

There's a difference between making the brand visible and showing it off. A little red tag is within the limits of reason IMO. Giant patches that cover an entire butt-cheek are another matter.

Now, if the jeans with the giant patch were as comforatble and durable as anyother brand AND cheaper, I'd buy and wear them.

Unfortunately, big brand badges are more often than not aimed at the (IMO) idiots who will pay much more for a product because it's cool and is branded a certain way.

**shartley** · 10-07-2003, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by SlartyBartFast

There's a difference between making the brand visible and showing it off. A little red tag is within the limits of reason IMO. Giant patches that cover an entire butt-cheek are another matter.

Now, if the jeans with the giant patch were as comforatble and durable as anyother brand AND cheaper, I'd buy and wear them.

Unfortunately, big brand badges are more often than not aimed at the (IMO) idiots who will pay much more for a product because it's cool and is branded a certain way.

**Albinonewt** · 10-07-2003, 10:59 AM

Originally posted by SlartyBartFast
Unfortunately, big brand badges are more often than not aimed at the (IMO) idiots who will pay much more for a product because it's cool and is branded a certain way.

I resent that.

My absolute favorite pullover fleece says Old Navy all over it (actually kind of annoys me too), but I defy anyone to show me a warmer more comfortable fleece for what I paid. Plus it fits well under my ref shirt.

**SlartyBartFast** · 10-07-2003, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by Albinonewt

I resent that.

My absolute favorite pullover fleece says Old Navy all over it (actually kind of annoys me too), but I defy anyone to show me a warmer more comfortable fleece for what I paid. Plus it fits well under my ref shirt.

But there is absolutely no reason to feel any resent. If you have been paying attention to the argument I was trying to make.

You have the best product available for the price you paid. But you yourself resent the advertising and therefor to a degree are in agreement with everyone who dislikes the 'walking billboard' look.

If the difference is between an 'old navy' t-shirt for $15 and $5 for the same without the logo, the non-logo version hopefully gets your vote.

**Albinonewt** · 10-07-2003, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by SlartyBartFast
If the difference is between an 'old navy' t-shirt for $15 and $5 for the same without the logo, the non-logo version hopefully gets your vote.

Which one is closest?

$10 isn't worth walking my fat arse all the way down to the other end of the mall

**SlartyBartFast** · 10-07-2003, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by Albinonewt

Which one is closest?

$10 isn't worth walking my fat arse all the way down to the other end of the mall

IMO, $10 worth of paint is worth the walk.

That and walking down the mall means I don't have to wear a t-shirt that will associate me with all the losers that walked all the way down the mall to buy Old-Navy.

I once had a similar argument with some-one who ridiculed me for shopping K-mart, Walmart, and discount stores for dress shirts. He on the other hand insisted on the quality of Ralph-Lauren and the like.

While I didn't change his thinking, I do know that the exact same sweat shop makes shirts for both discount stores and designer lables. The difference was something like 15 different operations, 10 of which were linked to monogramming the shirt and applying the label (notice I said different, not extra). The materials, machines, and workers were all identical. The only difference in my eyes was $60 for the label.

**CodeMA** · 10-07-2003, 05:33 PM

EXACTLY

The last guy got it right.....

Im surpised no one else did.....

YOU PAY FOR THAT LOGO....thats all there is too it....

It is the same with Harley Davidson(though I might add the quality of their products is higher then most of your other companys and such) YOU PAY FOR THE NAME....

Jearsys are throught to be cool.... oh look theres such and such playing for such and such...oh whats that hes sporting all the Dye apperal...HEY I can do that too....*goes out and buys the same things cuz well...I CAN...and it makes him look cool...Hes pro...I wannna look PRO....*

You pay to look cool....on so many levels...deal with it...slap some custom design over it, wear it, or dont.... I dont care...I really doubt anyone that posted does... all I know is I dont wanna hear your gripeing....

Sponcored players can do whatever with there jearsys its expected, Rec ballers can as well....and do.... it "makes them look cool" let them pay for their brand names....

however I do like My draxxus jearsy...its not all big and stuff really.... and is very comfy...

go buy a jearsy two sizes bigger then what you normaly wear in tshirts...three if they run small... and tell me you arnt a better player.... same with the pants.... YES its cheap....but your not gonna get as many busts on you...now are you...

**Python14** · 10-07-2003, 05:57 PM

Code ma....your post....too hard to read.....it is....yes.

Seriously, it's hard to tell if you are having problems with sentence structure or are trying to prove some point by not using punctiation correctly.

None the less

Unfortunately, big brand badges are more often than not aimed at the (IMO) idiots who will pay much more for a product because it's cool and is branded a certain way.

I take that "aimed at the idiots..." as offensive to me because I paid for my stylish paintball appearel.

**SlartyBartFast** · 10-08-2003, 06:53 AM

Originally posted by Python14
I take that "aimed at the idiots..." as offensive to me because I paid for my stylish paintball appearel.

Once, again. If you go off and but Levis jeans because they're Levis and you love the logo. I do indeed think you're one of the fools that P.T. Barnum said were soon parted from their money.

If you buy them because they're comfortable, durable, well priced. You're being a good consumer.

Some name brand goods are good quality. Harley was brought up. Sure some of their biking goods are great. Others suck. And paying a fortune for a key chain, bandana, t-shirt just because you want to sport the logo, well, you've already read my opinion of that...

**shartley** · 10-08-2003, 07:15 AM

**Muzikman** · 10-08-2003, 09:58 AM

I see one problem with this argument. Old Navy has some of the best prices in clothing. So do I buy Old Navy because it says Old Navy? No, I shop there because they have the best quality clothing for the best price. Sure as hell beats buying clothes at WalMart

**Albinonewt** · 10-08-2003, 10:21 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SlartyBartFast
Once, again. If you go off and but Levis jeans because they're Levis and you love the logo. I do indeed think you're one of the fools that P.T. Barnum said were soon parted from their money.

What, exactly, is wrong with buying products from a company that I like? So maybe the jeans I buy from Levis a are a little more expensive then the ones next to them, so what? It's called brand loyalty, and it makes life a lot easier when you can find a brand you like and stick with it. There are a lot of choices out there and sometimes the benfit you get from shopping around is outweighed by the time it takes. So yeah, I'd say brand loyalty can be a good thing. (Although, buying something because of the brand and then not liking it is kind of silly)

If you buy them because they're comfortable, durable, well priced. You're being a good consumer.

False. If you buy it at all, for any reason, you're being a good consumer. There are two kinds of consumers. Those that do consume (good) and those that don't (bad). Either you're a good consumer, or you are a non-consumer.

**SlartyBartFast** · 10-08-2003, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by Muzikman
I see one problem with this argument. Old Navy has some of the best prices in clothing. So do I buy Old Navy because it says Old Navy? No, I shop there because they have the best quality clothing for the best price. Sure as hell beats buying clothes at WalMart

Is no one listening?

If you're buying for the price then I think that's fine.

Alright, change the store to BOCA (do you have those in the U.S.? Pathetic cotton t-shirts with the store name across the front.

Originally posted by Muzikman
If you buy it at all, for any reason, you're being a good consumer.

Picky aren't we.

Amazing how much spit people will waste on such trivial nonsence.

If you're going to be all capitalist/Adam Smith definition of consumer on me, replace good with intelligent.

**Ov3rmind** · 10-08-2003, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by shartley

I agree 150%.

**Python14** · 10-08-2003, 04:23 PM

so let me get this straight, I'm an idiot if I buy clothes with logos because I like the look of the clothes. I'm an idiot if I buy clothes with logos because I want to emulate someone(imitation is the highest compliment). I'm an idiot if I buy clothes with logos because they are stylish...

So I guess I'm idiot by your standards....

Oh well, too bad I don't have any respect for your standards...else I'd be an idiot.

Paintball players with paintball jerseys look like an ad with legs.

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