Accuracy In a Mag?

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  • DarkPhoenix
    Advanced Fire Support
    • May 2001
    • 719

    #1

    Accuracy In a Mag?

    OK, I never thought I would say this but I need to increase the accuracy in my E-mag. Played against three members of Team Tidewater, in a 8-on-3 no less, and they proceded to completely shred us apart. The only out we made was done by our last player, accidently. OK, I have held off long enough, what recommendations can you guys make to help me increase the accuracy in my E-mag? Is the Freak my only option? I shoot mostly Proball and have the stock barrel and a smart parts AA.

    "The BEAST"
    "No-Rise" E-mag
    Level 10 Bolt
    AGD Flatline 91cu in/4500psi
    Black HALO B

    "Red Heatseeker"
    Red to Clear Fade Freak Factory Impulse
    68/4500psi Max-Flo
    Red HALO B
  • DYE-BaLLeR
    Registered User
    • Oct 2001
    • 756

    #2
    ok alot of people say all accuracy is is paint-barrel match but its not. freaks arent the only good barrel, though they are one of the best, their are others. ive heard that the emag stock barrels are pretty good but if you want to upgrade then do it. i like my boomstick, it is pricey but it is also excellant. if you have the money get a freak set. if you dont i recomend any two peice barrel, JT , J&J or DYE. i think the JT will have better shot to shot consistency because of the lenght of the back peice. imo

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    • [NA]WARLORD
      Registered User
      • Sep 2001
      • 764

      #3
      that would be a good start.i suggest a 12 or 14 inch barrel depending on game, i.e rec or speedball. remember add 1.5 inches to barrel length, for example ioin barrel willbe 11.5 inches total.

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      • [NA]WARLORD
        Registered User
        • Sep 2001
        • 764

        #4
        sorry 10" will be 11.5", 12" will be 13.5". hope this helps!

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        • Ninja B0Y
          Registered User
          • Oct 2000
          • 321

          #5
          It's not the gun it's you. They're NPPLer players what did you expect? The first time I played against real pros such as the likes of Ollie Lang, Alex Fraige, half of Ironkids aka Dynasty they shredded us to pieces. They'll hit you when you come out, they'll hit you if you even stick your barrel out and it seems like they'll even hit you when you are behind your bunker. And mind you he's shooting an angel and so am I yet he so much more accurate with his gun than mine. The truth is they've practiced alot more than you have and they've played against better players than you, so they force themselves to become more accurate other wise all they're gonna be doing all day is sitting in the dead box.

          Even Am B players can shoot deadly accurate. These guys can snap shoot like you wouldn't believe. The only real trick to it is to practice more and play against better players. I know for sure that these AM B's and Pro practice BOTH days every weekend. They have to if they're up against the best.

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          • DarkPhoenix
            Advanced Fire Support
            • May 2001
            • 719

            #6
            Point well taken. However, there were several instances where my paint was everywhere and I still could not hit them. My complaint is the fact that the shot grouping for my E-mag is a little wide and I would like to tighten it up so I can better gauge where the balls may land.

            "The BEAST"
            "No-Rise" E-mag
            Level 10 Bolt
            AGD Flatline 91cu in/4500psi
            Black HALO B

            "Red Heatseeker"
            Red to Clear Fade Freak Factory Impulse
            68/4500psi Max-Flo
            Red HALO B

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            • DYE-BaLLeR
              Registered User
              • Oct 2001
              • 756

              #7
              maybe you broke some paint . that can cause it to go everywhere.

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              • Russ
                Senior Membrane
                • Jul 2001
                • 1935

                #8
                quote: "ok alot of people say all accuracy is is paint-barrel match but its not."

                Yes, it is!

                The paint, being far more important than the barrel.

                You need to try different paint. Proball just isn't very consistent.
                I suggest you try some JT Maxim paint, or some yellow SlamBall, both shoot VERY good from my stock E-Mag barrel, the JT stuff being the best stuff I've tried in a long time. Why? the paint is very round, and the size is consistent.

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                • tooslow
                  ???
                  • Sep 2001
                  • 141

                  #9
                  It has been said THOUSANDS of times that accuracy is mostly due to baint/barrel matching because it's TRUE!!! THe rest of the equation is, of course, the quality and consistency of the paint itself.

                  So I agree with Russ, The first thing you should try is different paint with the barrel that you have now. If that's not really an option, look to a different barrel.

                  Now, that being said, your technique may be at least partialy to blame as well. If your gun is moving around, even fractions of an inch, with every trigger pull, then you will indeed have balls going everywhere.

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                  • cphilip
                    Former Moderator

                    • Jun 2026
                    • 16216

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DarkPhoenix
                    However, there were several instances where my paint was everywhere and I still could not hit them.
                    First of all you gotta remember a round gelatin ball full of paint is not the most aerodynamic thing in the world. But you still ought to hit a pie plate consistently at say 50 feet it everything is matched well.

                    Another rule of thumb is you have to practice a lot. Moving targets and stationary as well. Most people forget or dismiss this part as it gets a bit expensive. You need to use good paint for this just like a game. Same conditions so you narrow it down to just you. Same is true with regular fire arms practice.

                    Third thing is when they are moving up on you that you shoot where they are going not at them. That is very VERY important. Sounds like you are shooting wildly with no purpose. Pick a line they are moving to and swing out ahead of them. And then follow through in bursts.


                    You need practice. I do not get enough of that either. Not many of us do.


                    AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

                    cphilip.com

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                    • hitech
                      Not a shedder of vortices
                      • Nov 2001
                      • 4775

                      #11
                      Try waxing the inside of your barrel...

                      It works for me. Any good quality car wax should work. It doesn't make a radical difference, but it does make a little difference.
                      Good luck.


                      Hey Hitech your starting to sound like me! - AGD
                      Hitech is the man.... :eek: - Blennidae
                      The only Hitech Lubricant

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                      • MagMan5446
                        .....
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 2572

                        #12
                        There are 2 things that effect accuracy:

                        1-Paint/barrel match.

                        2-Velocity Consistency.

                        If you have a cocker and a mag, set them to the same, put the same paint and the same barrel and bench them, when you shoot them, they will be just as accurate and will shoot just as far.

                        A freak is actually multiple barrels in one.

                        I own a boomstick and a progressive, both shoot the same with good paint.

                        I HAVE TESTED THIS, SO DON'T EVEN ARGUE! (also tested with an 2000 Dark Angel, KAPP Cocker, Tribal Mephisto, and a Bushy.

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                        • oneshot
                          UW-Whitewater Paintball
                          • Sep 2001
                          • 767

                          #13
                          get the freak if you have the money it is worth it. also what I have found , is that the kick of the emag although small throws off my accuracy, or at least that is what I think, because I shot my friends dark angel and it seemed like the groupings with that gun was closer together than my emag. the angel has less of a kick. the superbolt will solve this .

                          hope this helps
                          Team Exotic Elements

                          Got Ace?

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                          • DYE-BaLLeR
                            Registered User
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 756

                            #14
                            its not just paint-barrel. its the inside of the barrel, the material used to make it, and the quality.

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                            • tooslow
                              ???
                              • Sep 2001
                              • 141

                              #15
                              Yes, and virtually any of today's crop of brand name barrels adequately address these issues, leaving just paint/barrel match as the variable...

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