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  • DiRTyBuNNy
    Registered User
    • Sep 2001
    • 4854

    #16
    Originally posted by NewMag
    I wasn't born yesterday for christ's sake. I know it happens. I'm irritated because someone wearing AGD's logo would do it. I'm wondering if there's any kind of screening involded when AGD sponsors someone, or if they just look at a teams win record and say "ok whatever"

    The sarcasm isn't nescessary.

    edit: enad there's nothing wrong with rec ball dangit!
    Actually it is..I've seen people sporting Smart Parts, Dye, JT, Draxxus, WoRR, WDP and many others cheating and just being jerks...like I said...you think it's anything new?
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    • G-Rock
      FAT MAN AT THE FIFTY!!!!
      • Apr 2002
      • 248

      #17
      Look NewMag has a point. It shouldn't have happened.

      In defense of the player, and I do this lightly, sometimes you play, and in the heat of the moment with spectators aggrevating you, stuff happens, words slip, gestures are made, it happens, but under no circumstances should you turn your marker at a spectator and shot at them.

      Now on to the fact he was on AGD pride. Sounds like a guy was filling in for them. It happens alot. You have an obligation to fulfill and players on the team have issues and can't make it, so you take an extra jersey and put it on some poor schmuck that plays. If that person makes an arse of themself, never use them again.

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      • NewMag
        Registered User
        • Oct 2002
        • 370

        #18
        Dude, I know, realize, and undertand that people being jerks and such are NOTHING new.

        Those poeple sporting other jerseys with other logos, can cheat and whine all they want. AGD prides(no pun) itself on it's integrity, yet I see a team representing them do something as stupid and rash as firing on spectators. All it's acomplishing is perpetuating the bad name our sport already has with the public, I would like to see AGD be NOT responsible for corrupting any newb's with false images of what good tourney ball is like.
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        • magman007
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          • Jun 2001
          • 7579

          #19
          well, i certqainly do not recognize the person ofn the far right, the one on the left, is timmy. Timmy would never ever do a thing like that.


          Saying the person on the far right isnt wearing any thing like the other pride members (pants hat etc) i would assuime he is the culprit



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          • TSalPaintball
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            • Aug 2003
            • 511

            #20
            Timmy wouldnt do something like that
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            • skirts
              Registered User
              • Aug 2001
              • 430

              #21
              ok... ill take this one

              the player in question does not play for AGD pride... he is one of my buddies that was taking my place for the 5-man tournament... the player used to play for bad company and explains the raven mask and the spyder...

              to comment on how he acted on the field... all i can say is that he knows what he did wrong. to bring up another side of this let me say that players on the sidelines are not allowed to make comments onto the field... the player that was having a problem with the "non hit" was actually a player from a rival team that was dissapointed in their standing in the tournament.

              i hope all of you understand that when you are out playing... emotions are on high... we have all sworn to ourselves when we got shot or we all want to just scream when a gun goes down or a move doesnt work... the player we are talking about plays a very competitive game that most will never experience - PRO paintball

              i hope whoever was effected by this event will accept my apology and look at how they might have reacted in the same situation remembering that on the field, instinct sets in.

              i hope this clears up some confusions and questions and i would like to say that AGD Pride has tried very hard to uphold a good image in both our on-field and off-field tactics...

              if you would like to discuss this further then i would encourage you to contact me personally via email at [email protected]

              skirts
              AGD factory team Pride

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              • shartley
                paintball player
                • Mar 2001
                • 9169

                #22
                Originally posted by DiRTyBuNNy
                I'm sorry to tell you, dude...and I don't mean to burst your innocence bubble...but that's not a big deal...it happens at just about every tourney I've ever been to. People cheat...people are jerks...and you know what...it's never going to go away no matter how bad it hurts your feelings. Sorry, you either have to learn to live with it or go play rec-ball for the rest of your life...
                Originally posted by G-Rock
                Now on to the fact he was on AGD pride. Sounds like a guy was filling in for them. It happens alot. You have an obligation to fulfill and players on the team have issues and can't make it, so you take an extra jersey and put it on some poor schmuck that plays. If that person makes an arse of themself, never use them again.

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                • NewMag
                  Registered User
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 370

                  #23
                  ok, well it's settled then. I gots nothin but love for AGD and that's why I was so upset. Thanks for clearing it up. I'll start passing word on that it was a sub, cause there are a few others that were flusterd by the behavior.

                  And you're right. Team Riven(the rival team spoken of) IS a bunch of whiny lamers.lol
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                  • NewMag
                    Registered User
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 370

                    #24
                    yes it was hurting me, and I don't see how expressing concern qualifies as whining.
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                    • the JoKeR
                      Slightly disturbed member
                      • Dec 2001
                      • 565

                      #25
                      Glad to hear it at least wasn't one of the 'regulars'. I've played rec ball with most of these guys many times over the past few years, and can't remember one single instance where anything 'underhanded' went down. My only complaint is that I'm typically stuck on the other team ducking their paint...
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                      • skirts
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2001
                        • 430

                        #26
                        thankyou shartley for your concern about how the team operates...

                        may i saw however that "if a team cannot put together the full amount of players that they shouldnt play" is an opinion of someone that does not play alot of tournament paintball (or play at all for that matter)

                        i am not going to slam you (heaven only knows that you have been abused enough on these forums) however i have to disagree with your statment... that may be only my opinion however i do agree with you alot of the time.

                        i, like many others, want to play paintball as often as i can. i also understand that there are things in peoples lives that do not allow them to play. if teams did not "pick up" players and try them out then how would any team ever be formed... it is possible that we were trying out a player who had not played in a couple years to see if he would be a valuable assett to our team (i.e. pro experience)

                        again thankyou for your input and the careful thought which you put into your response... also thankyou for your concern with such a great company like AGD... (we need the "honest" family oriented voice that you bring to the forums)

                        sincerely
                        daniel "skirts" holms

                        p.s. i know i cant spell... i dont have time to learn

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                        • cphilip
                          Former Moderator

                          • Jun 2026
                          • 16216

                          #27
                          Originally posted by skirts
                          to comment on how he acted on the field... all i can say is that he knows what he did wrong. to bring up another side of this let me say that players on the sidelines are not allowed to make comments onto the field... the player that was having a problem with the "non hit" was actually a player from a rival team that was dissapointed in their standing in the tournament.

                          ...i hope whoever was effected by this event will accept my apology and look at how they might have reacted in the same situation remembering that on the field, instinct sets in.

                          i hope this clears up some confusions and questions and i would like to say that AGD Pride has tried very hard to uphold a good image in both our on-field and off-field tactics...

                          if you would like to discuss this further then i would encourage you to contact me personally via email at [email protected]

                          skirts
                          AGD factory team Pride

                          Well that sums it up. Nice job Skirts. I think that pretty much clears up what happened and its evident that all involved wish it had not. Also lets hear why we have players from other teams in the stands taunting players out on the field. Does that sound like good sportsmanship? Should that be overlooked? Not that it should result in retaliation but that needs to be delt with as well. If you lose and are in the stands watching.... and don't have anything nice to say.... shut the hell up.
                          Last edited by cphilip; 10-05-2003, 04:41 PM.


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                          • RRfireblade

                            • Jun 2002
                            • 5103

                            #28
                            Originally posted by shartley
                            Well,
                            First off,these are kids (mostly younger people)playing a game,they are not bestowed with some supernatural character based on a AGD jersey and it's not fair to expect such.Paintball is an emotional game and certain reactions are unavoidable if your trying to perform at your best,under pressure you don't always use the best jugdement.Obviously what he did was wrong but I totally agree with Dirty as it's not a huge deal.

                            As far as playing or not, What planet do you live on? You do what ever it takes to field your team if it means grabbing some newb off the sidelines.Sponsers PAY TO HAVE THIER JERSEYS ON THE FIELD not on the bus.If that's not clear to you then we have completly different views on playing Tourny ball.

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                            • shartley
                              paintball player
                              • Mar 2001
                              • 9169

                              #29
                              Originally posted by skirts
                              thankyou shartley for your concern about how the team operates...

                              may i saw however that "if a team cannot put together the full amount of players that they shouldnt play" is an opinion of someone that does not play alot of tournament paintball (or play at all for that matter)

                              i am not going to slam you (heaven only knows that you have been abused enough on these forums) however i have to disagree with your statment... that may be only my opinion however i do agree with you alot of the time.

                              i, like many others, want to play paintball as often as i can. i also understand that there are things in peoples lives that do not allow them to play. if teams did not "pick up" players and try them out then how would any team ever be formed... it is possible that we were trying out a player who had not played in a couple years to see if he would be a valuable assett to our team (i.e. pro experience)

                              again thankyou for your input and the careful thought which you put into your response... also thankyou for your concern with such a great company like AGD... (we need the "honest" family oriented voice that you bring to the forums)

                              sincerely
                              daniel "skirts" holms

                              p.s. i know i cant spell... i dont have time to learn
                              Originally posted by RRfireblade
                              Well,
                              First off,these are kids (mostly younger people)playing a game,they are not bestowed with some supernatural character based on a AGD jersey and it's not fair to expect such.Paintball is an emotional game and certain reactions are unavoidable if your trying to perform at your best,under pressure you don't always use the best jugdement.Obviously what he did was wrong but I totally agree with Dirty as it's not a huge deal.

                              As far as playing or not, What planet do you live on? You do what ever it takes to field your team if it means grabbing some newb off the sidelines.Sponsers PAY TO HAVE THIER JERSEYS ON THE FIELD not on the bus.If that's not clear to you then we have completly different views on playing Tourny ball.

                              Jay.

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                              • raehl
                                NCPA President
                                • Aug 2001
                                • 692

                                #30
                                Oh poo.

                                I've been playing paintball for almost 10 years. I have never, ever, gotten into it with an opponent, official, spectator, or teammate. And I am also not given supernatural powers.

                                I also run a league where 98% of the players behave well all of the time.

                                The old paintball "but they're kids, it's a tough game, it's adrenaline", whatever, is bull****. It's an excuse, and it's a lie, because I know I can behave myself, and I know that I have a few hundred players in my league who can behave themselves - despite all being kids. (Not to say there are not a few who can't, but they quickly learn to cut it out.) And skirts has played NCPA ball, so he should know this.

                                Let's see some personal responsibility for a change. If someone is shooting a tthe crowd, it's because THEY are immature, period. I'd hope the team would simply not invite that player out to play with them again. It was poor form, period.


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