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  • Albinonewt
    Team Icky Forest
    • Apr 2003
    • 2456

    #16
    Nah, paintball started more then a 100 years ago in Salem. They used paintball guns to mark witches. If the paint came off you were a witch and they BURNED YOU!
    Or better yet, why don't you kill yourself. No, really, die. Drop dead, don't leave a note, in fact burn your house while your little ego is stuck in a bench vice so that you'll also incenerate yourslef and everything you own with it. Because that's all you're worth. You're not even wirh thte time it'll take for the house to burn down, so just kill yourself. You're a waste of space. You are nothing, you always will be nothing. Don't leave a note, you're not worth the ink. - Tyger

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    • paintpiggie
      player, not a hater
      • Aug 2003
      • 193

      #17
      haha, hell yeah. burn the wipers! haha, thats so funny.
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      • -=Squid=-

        #18
        Originally posted by Nachos


        Yeah, exactly, kid. I read the whole story in Action Pursuit Games magazine in like issue 10.
        Kid eh? How old are you? Like my age, around 16? Sigh...get your facts straight anyways...You find one other resource that states that some kids stumbled onto it by playing with slingshots...Oh ya, I forgot, these "kids" that you speak of were the ONLY people that ever shot each other with slingshots anyways The entire bit about slingshots and berries is irrelivant to the rest of it.

        EDIT: Why would you trust APG anyways?

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        • ChucktheMAGician
          Back at it
          • Oct 2002
          • 1855

          #19
          Originally posted by Army
          I wanna play with the paint and gun that can knock down trees
          I'm on Army's team
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          • Bolter
            Hardcore casual
            • May 2003
            • 1223

            #20
            go on army.....kick him in the n....berries.
            Bolter
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            • thei3ug
              Canicus
              • Oct 2000
              • 846

              #21
              charlie nelson of nelson forestry made the first paintballs out of wax with wooden moulds, to come up with a better way of marking trees.

              Knowing bored workers, yah, they might have shot each other a time or two.

              Whether or not they made a game out of it is a matter of conjecture.
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              • Will Wood
                Evil Monkey
                • May 2002
                • 3475

                #22
                My dad used to use these "markers." He was into forestry, and would go mark the trees. There was a backtype thing full of paint, and then a hose going to a gun, where it would just shoot out paint.

                I think.. it's been a while since he's told me about it. I'll ask him tonight.

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                • SlartyBartFast
                  The Flying Scotsman
                  • Jun 2002
                  • 2940

                  #23
                  Originally posted by SuiciDal Sn Y p ER
                  lol i want to see what guns they used to mark the trees and cows.
                  NelSpot 007, only paint available was from nelson and it was indelible.

                  Can't wipe when you need turpentine to get the paint off!

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                  • Nachos
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 71

                    #24
                    Originally posted by -=Squid=-
                    Kid eh? How old are you? Like my age, around 16?
                    No, 25 and I started playing in 1987, how long have you been playing?

                    Maybe theses "kids" weren't the only ones flinging berries at eachother in the woods but it is still the same sport we play today, tag and hide and go seek, well not so much hide with all speedball type games.

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                    • Mutilus
                      Fighter Not a Lover
                      • May 2003
                      • 54

                      #25
                      Okay it was markers used to mark trees and cattle. The tree markers (Park Rangers not lumber jacks) started shooting at each other first. Then a man named, Bob Gurnsey who happened across Rangers shooting each other (who by the way was involved in the first ever organized game of paintball) took the unnamed markers to a company which financed the development of the Nelspot 007 and back then we played using indellible paint that costed a lot of money for each shot hurt like hell and was oil based and never came out of your clothes. And the game was called The National Survival Game. The people who ran The NSG started the spread of paintball across the US. Yes I am older, but I am not old.
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                      • -=Squid=-

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Nachos


                        No, 25 and I started playing in 1987, how long have you been playing?

                        Maybe theses "kids" weren't the only ones flinging berries at eachother in the woods but it is still the same sport we play today, tag and hide and go seek, well not so much hide with all speedball type games.
                        Ive been playing long enough to know how the sport started, and probably playt more than you I hate people like you. OooO! Im older than you, so that means
                        I know more about the sport, and must be better than you!

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                        • thei3ug
                          Canicus
                          • Oct 2000
                          • 846

                          #27
                          YOu got your history wrong.

                          Gurnsey and some friends discussed the game BEFORE they knew of paint markers. They wanted to stalk each other, but needed a way to make it fun. a friend George Butler saw paintball guns (NAMED the Nelspot 007) in a farm catalogue. The Nelspot was already named by nelson paint. Origionally Nelson went to Crossman for a gun that would fire these new encapsulated paints he made, and they made the Crossman/Nelspot 707. It was a market failure. This gun is the first paintball gun. Next Nelson went to Daisy, who made the Nelspot 007, which is what Gurnsey and pals saw in the magazine. They did not see people playing in the forests of appalachia. They did not wander the earth searching for a manly sport fit for the gods. They saw them in a magazine.

                          secondly, Will Wood, your father might have used something different, as they were not backpack loaded. He might have had a paintgun that ran off a compressed gas, and shot liquid paint out of a nozzle, like an industrial paint spray. The origional Nelspots weren't much different from the last runs, however paint came in metal cigar tubes, and threaded into the gun. 10 balls. CO2 12 grams in the handle.

                          It started with Charlie Nelson making the balls, which were a marginal success, and the players in New Hampshire: Lionel Atwill, Ken Barrett, Bob Carlson, Joe Drindon, Charles Gaines, Jerome Gary, Bob Gurnsey, Bob Jones, Hayes Noel, Carl Sandquist, Ronnie Simkins and Ritchie White.

                          Thank you Durty Dan for posting their names.

                          As I said, anything more than that is conjecture.
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                          • Jeffy-CanCon
                            veteran rec player
                            • May 2003
                            • 1309

                            #28
                            As an aside, though we haven't seen Nelspots advertised for paintball in probably ten years, they remained in production longer than that. I have a friend who is a forest ranger, and he told me he was still seeing them advertised in forestry journals into the late 1990's.

                            They used them for surveys, to keep track of counts when measuring forest density.

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                            • thei3ug
                              Canicus
                              • Oct 2000
                              • 846

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Jeffy-CanCon
                              As an aside, though we haven't seen Nelspots advertised for paintball in probably ten years, they remained in production longer than that. I have a friend who is a forest ranger, and he told me he was still seeing them advertised in forestry journals into the late 1990's.

                              They used them for surveys, to keep track of counts when measuring forest density.
                              In fact, Nelson still retains parts and services for nelspots, including seals, pins, pump handles to replace that knobby bolt... I didn't know they still made them that late though.
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                              • Mutilus
                                Fighter Not a Lover
                                • May 2003
                                • 54

                                #30
                                Originally posted by thei3ug
                                YOu got your history wrong.

                                Gurnsey and some friends discussed the game BEFORE they knew of paint markers. They wanted to stalk each other, but needed a way to make it fun. a friend George Butler saw paintball guns (NAMED the Nelspot 007) in a farm catalogue. The Nelspot was already named by nelson paint. Origionally Nelson went to Crossman for a gun that would fire these new encapsulated paints he made, and they made the Crossman/Nelspot 707. It was a market failure. This gun is the first paintball gun. Next Nelson went to Daisy, who made the Nelspot 007, which is what Gurnsey and pals saw in the magazine. They did not see people playing in the forests of appalachia. They did not wander the earth searching for a manly sport fit for the gods. They saw them in a magazine.

                                Sorry, I stand corrected, it has been about 10 years since I even thought about the history I just wrote what I remembered. Thank you for the edit.
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