Are bottles SUPPOSED to unscrew from regs?

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  • Tunaman
    Specialized AGD Tech

    • Dec 2000
    • 8643

    #46
    Originally posted by BlackVCG
    AGD's torque spec is 35ft-lbs for the Flatline regs. They have a torque wrench setup with a cloth strap wrench to install/remove the bottles.
    25 ft lbs is the correct spec...
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    • trevorjk
      <S>WooLooLoo</S>
      • Dec 2002
      • 4324

      #47
      Originally posted by Tunaman
      25 ft lbs is the correct spec...

      woah thread resurrection
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      • skife
        Unregistered User
        • Feb 2003
        • 2769

        #48
        where'd that come from?




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        • behemoth
          SVSTC?
          • Nov 2002
          • 7750

          #49
          Tuna is drunk-posting again...

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          • punkncat
            One foot less
            • Feb 2003
            • 5841

            #50
            ...after almost trying to read through the some informative and some not in this thread, I am going to chime in.

            One of the reasons you aren't supposed to use "thread lock" is that there is a bleed hole in the side of the reg threads that allow it to vent, should you unscrew it while pressurized. May people made the mistake of slathering on too much of the stuff stopping that hole up.

            So as long as you aren't an idiot and can use the PROPER strength of "thread lock" and not put so much on , or in the wrong place, stopping up that vent, I highly suggest using it.
            Helps keep your bottle from turning into a rocket.....

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            • Beemer
              I could tell you but then.

              • Oct 2003
              • 3250

              #51
              Originally posted by punkncat
              ...after almost trying to read through the some informative and some not in this thread, I am going to chime in.

              So as long as you aren't an idiot and can use the PROPER strength of "thread lock" and not put so much on , or in the wrong place, stopping up that vent, I highly suggest using it.
              Helps keep your bottle from turning into a rocket.....

              Well you can suggest it but it is not a good idea.

              I just picked up three tanks from a local hydo place last week Regs already removed. They were surprised to see that. They wont even touch the tank any more if the reg aint removed.
              Why?? He said they have loctite on them and they cant be held responsible for thread, tank or reg damage trying to remove it. These guys said NO thread lock ever and asked why they do it. If the threads get compromised your screwed he said.

              One thing these guys asked was what standards we follow and who sets them.
              Last edited by Beemer; 05-20-2007, 12:58 PM. Reason: sp

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              • dahoeb
                Registered User

                • Jul 2004
                • 862

                #52
                i had a pmi pure energy, 68/45k and i also unscrewed it by hand while it was 3/4 full of pressure. at least i would have if i didn't catch myself. The reg half unscrewed from the tank before i realized what was going on.
                Since then i bought a new tank, in which the reg is also coming loose when i unscrew it from my asa. its not in the asa very tight so i don't know why all these regs are coming loose like this....it makes me pretty uneasy though.

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                • Shane-O-Mac
                  Registered User
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 1045

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Beemer
                  Well you can suggest it but it is not a good idea.

                  I just picked up three tanks from a local hydo place last week Regs already removed. They were surprised to see that. They wont even touch the tank any more if the reg aint removed.
                  Why?? He said they have loctite on them and they cant be held responsible for thread, tank or reg damage trying to remove it. These guys said NO thread lock ever and asked why they do it. If the threads get compromised your screwed he said.

                  One thing these guys asked was what standards we follow and who sets them.
                  The main reason to use a lil bit of thread locker, stems from the screw-in type regs. I have started to unscrew a bottle off a reg that was cross threaded into an asa, with 1200 psi in it. Now factor in the uneducated paintball player, that doesnt watch the tank and reg as they are unscrewing it, and you have a receipe for problems. I have seen, too many kids that will tuck the gun between their legs and then twist the tank off, thats where you can get the largest problem, this includes Co2 tanks. When used PROPERLY, the thread lock is a bit of insurance against uneducated players. I have locktited all my tanks and have NEVER had a problem removing them, but again they were installed properly. Co2 tanks ESPECIALLY need to be locktited, as their internal pressure is low enough to unscrew the tank while full. Yes we shouldn't need to locktite the tanks, but with the majority of players, it is needed. There isnt enough proper education in Paintball today. It seems as there aren't any standards that paintball actually follows, but ASTM is supposed to be one of them, along with DOT. Most scuba, and other pressure cylinder people dont have screw-in type regs, thats something paintball came up with. Tippmann was the first to manufacture the pin valve IIRC. Maybe an exemption should be made dealing with paintball HPA/Co2 tanks.

                  Again, If its done CORRECTLY, it isnt a problem using thread locker on tanks regs. It is good insurance though.
                  I have nothing good to put here...........


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                  • TheTramp
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2001
                    • 4019

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Beemer
                    I just picked up three tanks from a local hydo place last week Regs already removed. They were surprised to see that. They wont even touch the tank any more if the reg aint removed.
                    Why?? He said they have loctite on them and they cant be held responsible for thread, tank or reg damage trying to remove it. These guys said NO thread lock ever and asked why they do it. If the threads get compromised your screwed he said.
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