WAS Equalizer Rat Impulse = claimed "25 bps" (video clip)

[Matt_mg]

WAS board will have their own eyes mmmkay? And plus if you want to upgrade from a normal board like me youre not giving money to SP mmmkay? mmmkay?

Were being mean now so i'll be the first to say it: sorry

[P4ULuk]

Originally posted by -=Squid=-
Whats that have to do with anything? Did you understand what I said? Half of WAS is just numbers to make there products look better anyways, ask anybody. My point is this. If there is no bounce, set a WAS imp up, shoot it as fast as you can, then slap a different board capped at the same thing, in the same impulse. Both will shoot just as fast. Not that I support bounce, but its no better than any other board without it.

lol the point is there is no cap on the was boards.

I've shot the Viking with the stock board in set at 20 bps, I've also set my was'ed viking with the eye bypass max rof at 20 you can easily tell the difference!

Paul
:)

[CpSuPeRkId]

Originally posted by -=Squid=-
Whats that have to do with anything? Did you understand what I said? Half of WAS is just numbers to make there products look better anyways, ask anybody. My point is this. If there is no bounce, set a WAS imp up, shoot it as fast as you can, then slap a different board capped at the same thing, in the same impulse. Both will shoot just as fast. Not that I support bounce, but its no better than any other board without it.

first of all, yes WAS is just numbers.... u know why? because thats what makes his products so good. and you dont see to understand the concept of a was board with no bounce. it will STILL be faster than any other board for an imp because no other board scans for trigger pulls and accepts them 1 million+ times a second. even with no bounce the fact that the was board allows the gun to shoot everytime you pull the trigger makes it noticeably faster than any other gun. so P4uluck really was on the right track. he was saying that if you had your rof capped at 12 for example, you probably couldnt even hit 10 if you tried because it is ignoring half of the trigger pulls you make. and you say any other board capped at the same thing as a was board will be just as fast as long as the was board has no bounce?? wrong again. what other board is capped at 1 million+ shots per second???? none. so before you jump on the AO bandwagon claiming WAS's products suck and WAS is full of hype, think again because you are making yourself look stupid.

[P4ULuk]

Originally posted by CpSuPeRkId
so P4uluck really was on the right track. he was saying that if you had your rof capped at 12 for example, you probably couldnt even hit 10 if you tried because it is ignoring half of the trigger pulls you make.

Yeah that's the point I was trying to make, I guess I didn't make it clearly enough for some

Paul
:)

[DK1]

Originally posted by -=Squid=-
Whats that have to do with anything? Did you understand what I said? Half of WAS is just numbers to make there products look better anyways, ask anybody. My point is this. If there is no bounce, set a WAS imp up, shoot it as fast as you can, then slap a different board capped at the same thing, in the same impulse. Both will shoot just as fast. Not that I support bounce, but its no better than any other board without it.

eh, yes and no. The point of the WAS board is that it won't ever skip a trigger pull, and some boards DO skip some. If you've shot one of the new Bushmasters you'll feel it right off. They don't shoot every time you pull the trigger when you're really getting on it, and they are capped at 36. Reason is, the board only checks for pulls ever 1/36th of a second. So, if you're not pulling at the right time (and who's fingers are that consistent) the board doesn't pick up the pull. WAS boards (and the choas chip for the bushmaster) check the trigger at a 1mhz frequency, or 1 million time a second. Thus, no matter how ganky you pull the trigger, it's going to catch every pull. Then, the shot buffering works the pull in as soon as the timing settings allow. In the Choas chips case, I think it's as far out as 1/4 of a second later with the eye.

That's why normal boards are very highly affected by their caps. It's very very hard to max out a normal board if it's capped at 20, but there are people in the world that can hit 20 if the board recognizes every pull. Not that I've seen anyone capable of sustaining it, but in shorts burts it's possible.

Basically, the WAS board's trigger cap is 1 million/sec. The guns mechanics and pneumatics are the limiting factors. And you're fingers. But for a lot of boards, the cap is 20, and you'll have a really hard time hitting it not only because of your fingers, but because you'd have to pull the trigger exactly every .050 sec to get the board to register them all.

Board caps make it easy to tell if someone's using bounce though. The shots come out way too even...

DK1

btw, squid, the guy that makes the Chaos board lives in LR, I've talked to him about it a couple of times... it's really interesting, especially when people start debating what type of "eye" is better...

[beam]

A fun thing I like to do when someone says they can walk a trigger at 20 bps, is to start tapping the table as if it were a trigger.

Use my three middle fingers and make what kinda sounds like a horse galloping sound. da-da-dit, da-da-dit, da-da-dit. I start slowly and then increase my rate until I am going as fast as I can. Then I realize something....I would need to do 7 three-fingered cycles every second in order to get 21 bps. If I do a two finger walk...I would need to do 10 cycles a second.

So, I admire all you guys who can actually do that.

[WARPED1]

Originally posted by -=Squid=-
Because for those guns to attain such high rates of fire, there has to be bounce. Its not physically possible for one to actually pull a trigger 20 times in one second. You have to be stupid not to realize this, but if there is no bounce, there is NO point because any crappy ole board thats capped at 25 bps will shoot, guess what, just as fast as that. Zing!

Maybe the finger is limited, but this new trend of "shot buffering" makes it a reality.(to shoot faster)

[QUINCYMASSGUY]

was

To sum up all of this:

The WAS board is a remarkable board and probably the best out there, able to sustain a ROF and process information quicker than most if not all. I frankly think the Timmys and Trixes set up legitimately or with debounce set real low smoke the XMag, Worrblade, and such. But on that same note, I emailed back and forth with whoever posts as WickedAirSportz and he acknowledged the WAS isn't strong enough to power the needs of the Autococker. So I can understand why Worrblade fans don't think much of WAS boards but that doesn't take away from their abilities in all the Timmy-clones like Impulses. They rip and it's remarkable they are CAPABLE of 30bps without issues..

The debounce is shady because the idea may or may not have been to use it to break the one shot/one pull rule (or not, I don't know and not saying either so don't flame me) and allow the ROFs you see with Timmys that give them their reputation for illegal bounce. Non-WAS people have a legit grievance with that feature, it is easily used for cheating.

And I think most of you misheard the video. They said CAPABLE of 30bps full auto, not that they were using it full auto in the demo. But one or two of them at least had the debounce off, it was obvious. These guys want to sell markers and I don't putit above them to lie. And you're telling me tourney players don't use them with the debounce dropped? I hear stories of NYX chronoing then just pulling up the grips on the field and turning down the debounce. Paintball is full of cheaters, both on the field and behind the counter of stores. Point to a guy who says he can pull the trigger 20 times a second and I'll bet you you can point at a liar too without moving your finger. Try that ROF with a WAS set tourney-legal.

[sneakyhacker420]

all of you quit whining, none of you were like this when the timmy WAS board came out, nor the WAS viking board, but with the recent deal with SP, you're relentlessly whining about how much they suck in your opinion and being ignorant that they weren't shooting as fast as they were

hell, i can hit 17 without any effort on my nasty impulse, without trigger bounce

an easy 16 on my e-mag (1.37 board cap => e-mag is @ AGD right now getting flashed w/ 3.0) and with 3.0 and 20bps cap/shot buffering, i'll easily get 20 atleast in small bursts, guaranteed

then i'll just be waiting for the Q 1.0 e-mag doftware to cme out with a 26bps cap


this just never ends


i may be 14, but i am wiser than most of you, as i don't go off *****ing and moaning about something, and its easy to see that i am more mature than some of these morons who swam up the internet Rio Grande from PBN and came to the wealthy nation of Automags.Org

[WARPED1]

Originally posted by sneakyhacker420
all of you quit whining, none of you were like this when the timmy WAS board came out, nor the WAS viking board, but with the recent deal with SP, you're relentlessly whining about how much they suck in your opinion and being ignorant that they weren't shooting as fast as they were

hell, i can hit 17 without any effort on my nasty impulse, without trigger bounce

an easy 16 on my e-mag (1.37 board cap => e-mag is @ AGD right now getting flashed w/ 3.0) and with 3.0 and 20bps cap/shot buffering, i'll easily get 20 atleast in small bursts, guaranteed

then i'll just be waiting for the Q 1.0 e-mag doftware to cme out with a 26bps cap


this just never ends


i may be 14, but i am wiser than most of you, as i don't go off *****ing and moaning about something, and its easy to see that i am more mature than some of these morons who swam up the internet Rio Grande from PBN and came to the wealthy nation of Automags.Org

AMEN BRUTHA!

[-=Squid=-]

Eh, its not worth arguing anymore