Fields are for Losers

[Cliffio]

*cough* *close it* *cough*

[pumpamatic]

Some pros and cons of guerrila paintball:
Con: It gets boring knowing exactly what your 3 best friends do every game.
Pro: Sometimes it's fun to bunker our lil newbie bro's
Con: Our 1 field gets old, we don't want to waste anymore precious hunting area
Pro: After we get bored of our 1 field, we can play stupid 4 wheeler tricks
Con: We aren't exactly field designers either
Pro: I have the best gun of all my friends(classic mag)
Con: Playing woods ball totally blows, there's no teamwork involved, we just start a long ways away from each other and walk stupidly around til we get shot.
Con: Only my local field does air fills
Some pros and cons of fields
Pro: I don't always have to be on the same team as my one of my 3 best friends.
Con: When I was a newbie, it really sucked paying 15 bux to get smoked all the time
Pro: I can buy more paint when I run out
Con: No stupid 4 wheeler tricks
Pro: I didn't have to build the fields
Con: Can't shoot random objects between games
Pro: Local field is only place I can get air fills
Con: Can't invent stupid games(like on our field, when I was out of air," You run or else we shoot everyone" that was fun)
Con: Can't moon people while running to a nearby bunker
Con: Can't play one on one in a soybean field
Con: Can't really do anything stupid that's entertaining

I think this debate is like cocker vs mag, do both

[~WarpedRT~]

As far as I know, you cant find any Sup Air, or Ultimate Air trees, or any sort of decent fields in the woods. Commercial fields are the best. But I have been known to show up at a few places where they play back in the woods. Since I am more into competition paintball, I would much rather play on a speedball course that is actually worth playing on.

[MagMan5446]

You are ignorant beyond all reason. You are the type of stupidity that I piss on from a considerable height.

If your field sucks, too bad, play backyard. It's not that fun playing with less than 10 people, but if you like it, then fine, it's your opinion. Claiming that "fields are for losers" is damn ignorant.

I have good BYOP fields, when I want to play with less than 30 people, I go to one, if I want to play with more than 100 people, I go to the other, if I don't have any money and I have leftover air/paint, I play backyard games (we actually have a backyard field by the highway).

Guerilla paintball is not a backyard game. It is when you go to a public place (a school) and start playing there. Quite a big difference.

Ignorance like yours pisses me, and probably everyone else, off. Shut your mouth if you don't know what you are talking about.

[Lorren]

My Preference

I've played fields and public land for a considerable peroid of time. (4 years forrest/field in montana, 1 year field in nevada)

Honestly, I prefer playing on public land with a natural landscape. Where I use to play, we would get 50-60 people in a 15 acre mini forest with a clearing in the middle puncuaed by thigh high brush. It was REALLY fun. If you invest in a 30 dollar home business licence, you can get paint wholesale, and with 2.00 scuba fills I used to play from 9:00am until dark for about 10-20 dollars depending on how trigger happy I felt.

No expensive/crappy field paint.
No expensive field fills.
No stupid crates for hiding places.

Of course, one of the reasons it was so fun was that the local air force personal would show up to play. They were good.

Don't get me wrong. You need to have all your own stuff and a popular place to go to enjoy public land play, but I havenet come across a large city that didn't have place like it. Even now that im in nevada I still play on a public field most of the time, but since its a speedball field I dont count it as wilderness play.

[Hexis]

Both field and fully legal woods play have a part in my paintball world. I don't like speed ball. It's far different than what I started with, and I just don't enjoy it. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for people being nuts about it, just not something I like. I enjoy playing more wooded/natural environment.

The fields around me are crap. I mean $2 per 1000psi for Nitro, what's that? One place won't even let you chrono with your own paint. That's after a $15 field fee. Their idea of a big game is 30 people. The result is I avoid them. So I play on land where is is both safe and legal to play. They are no more safe than we are. One time I was at a field and they didn't even chrono the guns, it was cold and they figured no one was gonna get above 280fps. Along I came with my Nitro setup and they just had me eye ball it. I cranked it way down just to be safe.

I for one abhor the idea of people doing things that cast the game/sport of paintball in a negative light. But I don't think safe and legal play off of a commercial field does that in any way.

On the other hand, playing on land that you don't have permission to play on is trespassing, and stupid.

[Sledgehammer]

Laws on playing off field in Germany.

Painguns are regarded as "low power firearms" you can own them when you're 18 and you don't need a license.

When you play renegade (anywhere else than on a legal field) you're in for the following:

- Illegal carrying of a gun: Jail up to 3 years (+ destruction of said gun)
- Illegal shooting (on public property): A lot of money (+ destruction of said gun)

And some more funny laws:

- Owning a Paintgun that's capable of burst fire or full auto (= unlicensed ownership of a military Weapon in a minor case): Jail up to 3 years or a lot of money (+ destruction of said gun)
- Giving a Paintgun to anyone under the age of 18: A lot of money (+ destruction of said gun)

[Failure]

sledgehammer, rules about firearms differ from state to state here in america. Lets let this thread die. People that play in the woods are not lesser people. What the debate was about is that the dude said that whoever plays at fields are losers. Thats what we were arguing about not the fact that playing in the woods isn't as cool as at a field. Thats not true. Im out of the conversation here, its pointless. Empty barrels do make the most noise.

[bofh]

Originally posted by Failure

In NJ a paintball gun is considered a firearm

Correction, Paintball Markers used to be considered firearms in NJ until around 1988. Ray Gong successfully won a lawsuit to effectively interpert the term "firearm" in NJ.

Ray Gong then founded Top Gun Paintball the next month. Top Gun Paintball is the reason why paintball is legal in NJ.

[Failure]

Well the trooper said in not so many words, any firearm that shoots solid projectiles, debateable, is considered an illegal firearm. He read it from something so I'm taking his word that he is right. But Ray from top gun really started that? Good man.

[MoserMan]

Magman

Funny how I just made up the term guerrila paintball and never heard anyone use it b4 so it is what I intended it to mean: any form of paintballing off an offical paintball field.

I think the term "backyard" is kinda of weak

I play in a 2 acre private field, partially open and partially wooded with no surronding neighbors. We have many bunkers set up and we usually play with 20 or more people

The subject of this thread was made cause I knew I would get more results from it. I dont honestly think that fields are for "losers" but I just prefer to have more fun and save more money

everyone has there own opinion

[AngelBoy]

Well, I've got a speedball field set up at my cabin. Its a nice field, but the cabin is 45 minutes out of town and all my friends are too big of pansies to get in a car for more than 10 minutes. But when we can drag everybody down there it rules. Weve got fills on nitro and Co2 so air isnt a problem, but paint is. We have a handheld chrono, and we all are safe, and most of us are honest. It takes a lot of work to keep the field up because its so far away, so we spend a week before we play down there mowing and fixing the bunkers.

If there was a field within an hour drivin distance I would go to it, but theres not. I would try to open one, but Im only 13. I would take playin at a field any day over renegade, but theyre just too far away.

[bofh]

Originally posted by Failure
Well the trooper said in not so many words, any firearm that shoots solid projectiles, debateable, is considered an illegal firearm. He read it from something so I'm taking his word that he is right. But Ray from top gun really started that? Good man.

In 1988 there were a few reasons why the state considered Paintball markers to be firearms.

Since paintball markers used CO cartridges (1988! remember), they were firearms since one definition of a firearm involves the use of cartridges. Also paintball markers were "destructive devices" since they fired a projectile greater than .60 caliber.

Ray contacted Bud Orr, and had him make a CA (a regular tank) .50 pump sniper. And then he had it entered as evidence in his lawsuit. During the case, he convinced the judge that paintball markers weren't "deadly" by shooting an expert witness several times.

It all happened in Monmouth County, right in the court house in Freehold. 2 miles from my house

Ray used to have the marker used in the court case hanging on the back wall at the field... I haven't been there in years.

So in short, Ray is the man responsible for paintball in NJ.

The only shame is, that this is going to get lost in the rest of the thread... maybe I should repost it as it's only thread...

[Hexis]

I think you should. That's way more important than this thread.

[MoserMan]

by you posting to this thread makes you a hypocrite