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  • Bonx0007
    AO SOCAL OG
    • Sep 2001
    • 1388

    #1

    Increased efficiency???

    Hello All,
    I recently was tinkering with my EMAG. I was trying to get LVL 10 to its maximum softness. I went down from a 1.0 carrier to a zero carrier and after some adjustment to the o-ring(light stretching)I was able to operate my emag with a zero carrier and the largest spring and not have any bolt stick. I proceeded to fire the gun a lot. I noticed two things. One: My trigger was much more reactive, making me shoot faster. And two: The gun seemed like it would never run out of air at 2000 psi. I got more shots out of my tank than I ever had. I wasn't able to chrono it but the pop from the gun sounded like a standard burst at a normal speed.

    Any insight???
  • fire1811
    Firefighter
    • Nov 2002
    • 4930

    #2
    hmmm
    with the longer spring you mag should have be LESS effecient since it uses more pressure to push the bolt forward. (if i remember correctly that is)
    "The Few Who Do Are The Envy Of The Many Who Only Stand And Watch"

    Alway Remember *343*

    Si vis pacem, para bellum

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    • USAF-Flyboy with a Mag

      #3
      I was under the same impression too. The larger the spring, the more your efficiency suffers

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      • Bonx0007
        AO SOCAL OG
        • Sep 2001
        • 1388

        #4
        doesn't higher pressure require lower volume???

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        • Wrathchild
          Registered User
          • Aug 2003
          • 211

          #5
          I have the longest spring in my RT classic... my efficiency jumps by +1/-1. Consistancy wise, I get about 400-500 shots to every 500psi with my 72/4500. Every valve is slightly different?

          [3-7-04][[18:58] [Fred-O] Dizzo and I stripped yesterday... a lot of anno off some parts of mine that is...

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          • rikkter
            • Jun 2002
            • 1804

            #6
            Originally posted by Wrathchild
            I get about 400-500 shots to every 500psi with my 72/4500. Every valve is slightly different?
            are you sure?

            i get about 800-900 shots with a full 68-45 fill..
            viking #619

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            • fire1811
              Firefighter
              • Nov 2002
              • 4930

              #7
              hmm i only get about 1200-1400 shots out of a 68/45

              thats like 3500-4500 shots a tank

              whatever you did you should patent it now
              "The Few Who Do Are The Envy Of The Many Who Only Stand And Watch"

              Alway Remember *343*

              Si vis pacem, para bellum

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              • TheFlamingKoosh
                I'm No Longer On Fire
                • Mar 2002
                • 1710

                #8
                Originally posted by Bonx0007
                doesn't higher pressure require lower volume???
                Right, but you can't adjust the volume on an emag... it is pretty much set. So when you have to raise the pressure to overcome the extremly tight carrier and really long mainspring, all that extra engery is wasted in friction... Leading to worse effeciency.
                Hey Zero, how much did that Chipley cost ya?

                Originally said by Boggerman When I got married I thought it would go down too... The insurance, not the wife.

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                • Wrathchild
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 211

                  #9
                  Sorry, was typing in one of my slightly incoherant stages, usually about 500 per 1000-1250. Get almost a case off of my 72/4500... below 800 psi, the mag sputters alot and i dont even try shooting it because it lobs paint.

                  [3-7-04][[18:58] [Fred-O] Dizzo and I stripped yesterday... a lot of anno off some parts of mine that is...

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                  • Bonx0007
                    AO SOCAL OG
                    • Sep 2001
                    • 1388

                    #10
                    Originally posted by TheFlamingKoosh


                    Right, but you can't adjust the volume on an emag... it is pretty much set. So when you have to raise the pressure to overcome the extremly tight carrier and really long mainspring, all that extra engery is wasted in friction... Leading to worse effeciency.

                    makes sense.thank you.

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                    • RoadDawg
                      Degeneration X is back
                      • May 2001
                      • 4023

                      #11
                      I've noticed since I've gone flatline that my efficency has gone upwards. With my 45/45 flatline I get around 900+ shoots.

                      On a side note: Got your emag battery working again eh Bonx? What was up with it?
                      Sorry, I'm old

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