i was looking at old APG magazines today and i saw the origional ad that turned me on to the automag. it was an ad by paintball games dallas...i payed $444 for my mag with p/f, gravity hopper,single trigger frame, bottom line ASA and a pro power sniper barrel, and 12 ounce c02 tank...haha, $444 thats alot of $ for back in the day this was back in 1999. i upgraded from a spyder compact A w/ a single trigger. i was looking at some of the articles and new products (of the time) some of which you dont see or hear of anymore, its just crazy even for me being 17 and to see so many changes in the sport, i cant even imagine what the vets of the sport feel like, it just made me feel good to look back on all those old magizines and to read some of them articles and look at those pictures, even in my 5 years of play i have seen alot and i think its headed in the right direction. something else that cought my eye was the old RT ads, the sweaty bad *** looking dude holding the RT, haha i used to drool over that gun all the time, and now you barely see em anymore, i dont see mch of any AGD things anymore besides here, its sad, cuz AGD makes such fine products and ppl just dont know what they are capible of, i also had to watch the old classic tech video and tom rippin it up at the end w/ the minimag...haha wow, paintball goodness!
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I think what spun me onto the mag was HL-PB.. The RT Mag was the fastest mechanical gun in the game, and I dont think the model of the gun was very accurate, but it sure as hell looked cool! Soooo for christmas, a mag I got.Comment
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I was turned onto the mag because of its sheer size and and was just impressed with the simplicity of the marker.
I still don't see what could truly be better.
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yes the godfather is a force to be reckoned with, AGD has always been there, for as long as i can remember, i just wanna hear from some of the older members on AO, what they think, i find stories like that interesting. i cant even imagine how you vets of the sport feel, maybe even a word from tom and his inputComment
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got my 1st mag back in 93...i upgraded from a vm68...it was a used mag because the guy wanted to get a cocker.....it had 3 feet of steal braided hose wrapped up on its side that acted like an expansion chamber. i remember that it was the coolest looking gun around..i put on green wooden grips, got a VL3000 and went to town. oddly enough i still shoot that mag..its my primary gun...mind you its gone through many changes but its still the same valve, now with LX
hell when i gt te LX put in i still had the spring in the power tube...the guy at the 1st shatner (where i got the LX) looked at me like i was crazy, but it still rocked
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'99 isnt "back in the day" lol. Yeah, I remember the early 90's...I had a bushmaster, with an autotrigger (if you remember the OLD bushys, then you qualify as "back in the day"), and got schooled by some guy with a mag. I do recall people having several coiuls of braided hose too...lol...wow, that all brings back memories.
I actually didnt purchase my first mag until 99 though. I was out of PB from 93-98...got back into it...then went REAL quick through guns, culminating in my X-mag. I currently own that, my first automag, a GZ Timmy, a 2k3 impy, a spanky cocker, a couple of spyders and tippys in various stages of disassembly. But, I trust and use my X most of all. You cant really beat the simplicity of design. Why tinker for an hour or so, when you have a gun where, with 95% of the problems, it is oil or Orings? Guess people just like hype over function.Comment
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i still have my 1st mag too, i had the old style powertube and the round spring, lol it also has gone though many changes i have a pic im ny sig, even that pic is outdated, i have a Y grip and ULT and a dye gas thru foregrip now for the ppl that lookedComment
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I still have my first Automag (although I upgraded to the RetroValve along time ago) I have lots of other markers but when I step on the field 9 times out of 10 it will be with an AGD product. (That damn XMag of mine goes through so much paint that I occasionally switch to a pump or one of my slower markers).
I also have my first Nelspot. I started playing in 86 but didn't purchase a marker until late 86 or early 87. I remember we used to chrono by shooting into some thin wall board. If it splintered we turned it down. I bought a BlackWidow which was a Bushmaster clone and didn't realize how hard it shot. Years later I took it to a field with some old Nelson Oil based paint (the stuff was tough as leather) Whe I fired it over the Chrono the ref turned white when it registered 798 fps. The second shot was pretty close to the same and all he could say was..."you can't paly with that marker here". I changed the springs and got it down to 280 and had a great time. Of course then along came a VM68 and eventually a 68Automag. Then came an RT Classic (which I have also) another RT, 3 Emags (still have two of them) and the X-Mag.
I've heard some detractors on this very board call Automag owners something of a cult. I agree with that to a certain extent. I would propose however that we aren't necessarily a cult but an extended, somewhat dysfunctional family. GO to any event that there is an AGD booth, tell them who you are on this board and I guarantee you will feel like you are being welcomed by members of your long lost family. (Well except when I mention to Tom that I own the Bonta EMags but I promise you Tom I am completely redoing them so that they meet current production specs. About the only original thing about them is the vavle). I also own a Dark Angel and have owned a Speed and never felt welcome at a WDP tent. I do feel comfortable at a WGP tent as Bud Orr is a pretty good guy also and is as approachable as Tom is. I've been to the Smart Parts tents and they can bite my rear end. At one time I was seriously considering buying a Strange Impulse at their tractor trailer and was completely ignored.
Point is the old school guys seem to understand that the average paintball player is their most important customer. Give me the companies where a word and a handshake is how they do business over @$#!@** (insert your favorite expletive here) who only cater to whiny holier than thou professional tourney players.
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i rember getting into mags my friend told me about htem and showed me a RT PRO in a action pursuit games magazine i was like holy crap 600 bux for just the gun and then you needed nitro that was back when i had my tippy well when i was looking to get a new gun someone had a old school RT and i bought wiht tank for 350 i was so happy and then eventually i sold it but i might buy it back from the guy i sold it too for like 100 bux
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I remember seeing my first mag in an apg magazine 3 or 4 years ago with my best friend... we knew absolutely nothing about paintball at the time (alot less than we thought we did, anyways). I actually remember the conversation we had about it...
"wow, look that thing is 350 without a barrel or a bottomline or anything..."
"yeah, i think it's fully automatic or something."
"yeah, that would explain it..."
"i think i'll get a spyder instead... they are cheaper and cooler anyways"
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When I was younger I always used to look at paintball guns even though I could never get one. The gun I looked at the most was the mag. I don't even know why.
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Oh man, the memories this brings back seriously brings a tear to my eye. I really miss those days when THE most respected players used Mags. Everyone else shot spyders, pumps, or Pro-lites.
Man, I'm only 18 and I remember....
When the All-Americans still used Automags
Marty Bush used a Sniper 2
Rocky Cagnoni played for Rage
The AGD tech video was only a few years old
Lots of the professionals had their gun on remote
Mr. Kaye played down in Disney world in SPANDEX
Robbo played for the AAs
Vents masks were the awsome
Only wearing your goggles(no face mask) was cool
Speedball did not exsist in any form
Nitrogen systems came in like 1200 psi and 2850 psi
The only hopper choice was the Viewloader 2000
You had to check yourself for ticks hourly
The coolest gun to have was the Automag RT or an STO
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