AGD @ CalJam .... NOT

[AGD]

Well everyone I owe you an apology. Army emailed me saying he was going to the tourney and had his plans all set. He was going to work with Dittos. When the question was asked on the board I just assumed it was one and the same event. Looks like I was wrong and I'm sorry.

As you read above we are trying to straighten out this programing thing. The damn programers keep blowing up on us and changing software. We will keep you posted as it progresses but likely there will be several programing points around the country soon.

AGD

[Muzikman]

Originally posted by RoadDawg
I should refine my terms to here in Cali. I know it is a nice concept but I've heard things like the West side will get more attention but I'm yet to see it come into play *except for Rogue's products*. Don't get me wrong I know Black deals with Emags but that would once again require me sending it away. Basically the point that I'm making is that me and my fellow SoCal emaggers hate waiting/ having to send our emags someplace else *nonlocal* to get the board flashed or even in some cases a parts kit. Rogue just happens to be the only dealer/store in the Los Angeles area (not 2+ hours outside of LA)that can get parts. I'm just saying something needs to change in the way AGD treats the West coast.

Hate to break it though, there are lots of place around the uS like this. I live in Pittsburgh and at one time Mag were very popular in this area and ProShops carried parts and such. Over the past 6 or so years that has changed and I can not find a part of a mag anywhere around here. So, if I want parts or my eMag flashed I must send it off, or travel to events.

[RoadDawg]

Originally posted by Muzikman


Hate to break it though, there are lots of place around the uS like this. I live in Pittsburgh and at one time Mag were very popular in this area and ProShops carried parts and such. Over the past 6 or so years that has changed and I can not find a part of a mag anywhere around here. So, if I want parts or my eMag flashed I must send it off, or travel to events.

I never said Cali was the only place. I'm stating from my point of view and expressing my concern. I do know that several events involving anyone from AGD have happened a lot closer to you then California folks though *outside of AO SoCal*. By all means there are places that don't even see major tournies such as Utah.

[Jonno06]

how many AGD dealers do you think we have in florida?

[Schnitzel]

it was a little disheartening to see the little AGD symbol on the bottom of flyers at the caljam...and then know after being there for an hour that AGD wouldn't be represented. but i also understand that miscommunications happen and things go wrong. i feel like sometimes we expect too much from AGD, because we expect so much from their products and stand behind them. i'm sure that tom is aware that there are AO'ers all around the US that are begging for some representation in their area(s). but at the same time AGD cant do everything. things take time when it comes to expanding a company nationwide with several dealers in each state. i think i can say for every devoted AO'er:

we'll stand behind you tom, through good times and bad.

PS: im going to be at the vegas panam. now that we know that pbdaddy and army will be there, should we bring our emags? because we AOSOCAL peeps are dying to get our boards flashed. if not, we understand.

[RetroEclipseMan]

Originally posted by RoadDawg


I never said Cali was the only place. I'm stating from my point of view and expressing my concern. I do know that several events involving anyone from AGD have happened a lot closer to you then California folks though *outside of AO SoCal*. By all means there are places that don't even see major tournies such as Utah.

Yeah, I wouldn't be complaining too much. I live in Washington where I can't even go to a proshop to buy a parts kit and I'm sure it's the same way in many other parts of the country where you just have to deal with it. Sure I'm disapointed that I'll probably never see an AGD in Washington unless more of a major tourny series ends up here other than Pan Am but it's just a sacrafice that I make since I love AGD products so much.

[USAF-Flyboy with a Mag]

Originally posted by Jonno06
how many AGD dealers do you think we have in florida?

Last time I checked...AGD was at world cup in Florida.

I agree with Nick "Roadawg" on everything that he has said. I was originally the guy that asked RogueFactor the "Hey why aren't you flashing boards or being represented as AGD's West Coast guy?" I understand that AGD already has one, but in all honesty I've never heard of the guy. Rogue, to my knowledge, is the only guy in the California area that is pushing AGD. He isn't just a distributor of products, but he firmly believes in the products and backs them up 115%. The man is honest, communicates great, quick to ship, and is a class act. The same type of class act that I associate with AGD.

On what schnitzel said...I would agree. We can't expect AGD to be every where at once. They are a company with finite resources; however, I just wanted to point out that you have a dealer in CA that wants to help AGD get their name flashed around in CA. There is also a growing loyal customer base here that is just as eager as thst dealer to preach AGD to the masses and get some respect. All we want is just a guy that AGD trusts and backs "whole-heartedly" as our local dealer.

On another note...sorry for the grammar mistakes, but I'm pretty hungover right now

[RoadDawg]

Originally posted by AGD
Well everyone I owe you an apology. Army emailed me saying he was going to the tourney and had his plans all set. He was going to work with Dittos. When the question was asked on the board I just assumed it was one and the same event. Looks like I was wrong and I'm sorry.

As you read above we are trying to straighten out this programing thing. The damn programers keep blowing up on us and changing software. We will keep you posted as it progresses but likely there will be several programing points around the country soon.

AGD

Before I forget I just wanna thank Tom for admitting that a mistake was made and was more then willing to clear the air. I understand you guys are very busy and can't be everywhere and CalJam isn't exactly a upscale tourny except to those in or around California. Thanx for the update on the software issue as well.

[DiRTyBuNNy]

Originally posted by RoadDawg


Before I forget I just wanna thank Tom for admitting that a mistake was made and was more then willing to clear the air. I understand you guys are very busy and can't be everywhere and CalJam isn't exactly a upscale tourny except to those in or around California. Thanx for the update on the software issue as well.

AGD wasn't represented at the PSP-Los Angeles or the NPPL-Huntington Beach either...I know..I went to both...and Clare and I were repping (unofficially of course) for AGD by having the Kitty-X on display for everyone to take a look at (while most X-Mags were still months away from getting to their owners) at the Paintball Expo.

[thecavemankevin]

Originally posted by RobAGD
OK I am going to pass along a little info here.

AGD sent me all of thier programing FOBs because they were having some problems getting them updated. I got the fobs but they forgot the connector to program them. So that had to wait. I was here last night until 4am re working all the cables and fobs and programing connectors. When it was all said and done I have 2 working ( mostly ) fobs, 3 cables and looks like 1 working pograming adapter.


I dont know why Ditto's was not there, I dont know why army was not there, I do know even if they had ben there, there would have been no programing of boards.

Part of what HAS to happen when a board is flashed is you have to check for board noise. Some guns are very noisy and you cant have 3.2 on them as they go FA. Think WAS with 1 Debounce and in SIM mode. So They guns have to check out before they leave the table, this is something that we learned at Cup and had not run into yet.

I do not speak for AGD on this matter but as someone that is trying to get new programs out thier and get things working.

I am also trying to work out a workable deal with AGD to get regional dealers to do board flashing and basic gun check up. But the dealer is looking at a up front cost of $70-$100 up front for this.

-Robert

wow, didn't realize that there were such problems with this upgrade. Makes me glad that i asked rob about it when i was up at his store. I was like, so when do you think you will be able to flash 3.2. He was like, i can do it for you right now if you want

although i must admit that the rig he had his laptop hooked up to and then to my x, was jerry rigged like a beast....but it got the job done

[JT2002]

Rob care to show us with pics what this "Beast" looks like?