X-Mags not taking 3.2...

[pito189]

So at the AO day, my X-Mag would not take 3.2 because of a noisy HES. It caused the gun to go FA everytime you pulled the trigger.

Can somebody explain to me fully what this means, and how much it is going to cost me to get corrected?

[BlackVCG]

Make sure your battery is fully charged and the shbf is set above 20ms.

I'm pretty sure a capacitor on the power lead going to the board would clean up the noise in the wires, but I haven't tried it yet or come across a gun that wouldn't work with 3.2, for that matter.

[personman]

I dunno but that shark attack xmag must have had a 'noisy' HES because It was going full auto.. was I the only one who turned that thing on and pulled the trigger?

[Dayspring]

See, mine was weird. Pito was there when I gassed up my Xmag with 3.2 at the field. Pulled/held the trigger and it was full auto, from 4-100. But for some reason, it decided to knock that off. I had it on 4ms all day and it ripped, no bounce, nothing but consistent streams of paint.

Just ask Albinonewt.

[AGD]

Some boards seem to have problems but we are not sure what it is. We are looking into it.

AGD

[FreakBaller12]

the man has spoken!

[Sir_Brass]

heh heh, someone need an Electrical engineer armed with capacitors, solder, soldering iron, and an oscilloscope and layout sheets?

[cledford]

Hoover flashed mine and it has mad bounce without air - I ran the SHBF up to 100 and it would still fire indefinitely when the trigger was depressed just right. With air it settled down a lot, but with a little bit of practice but I could rip 2 round bursts (nothing more) pretty easily with the SHBF set to 20ms in E mode.

-Calvin

[rehme]

my emag must be weird or something i have my shbf at 4ms and my bps at 20 and i dont have bounce or burst at all. but it has a very consistant stream coming out of it.

[felony]

Same thing with mine..

No matter what the buffer is set at.. still mad bounce if held just right..

zero control, like trying to stop a beamer in the snow :0

yikes

fun to shoot, but is it legal ?

dan

[Potatoboy]

Originally posted by BlackVCG
Make sure your battery is fully charged and the shbf is set above 20ms.

I'm pretty sure a capacitor on the power lead going to the board would clean up the noise in the wires, but I haven't tried it yet or come across a gun that wouldn't work with 3.2, for that matter.

I personally flashed about 6 at SEAO with no luck, good batteries checked under load, and SHBF at 100.

[Sir_Brass]

what kind of PLD is the emag and xmag taking? Correct me if I'm wrong, but from the sound of it (being able to reprogram after installing into the board), it sounds like a cypress semiconductor PLD was used. Those things can be REALLY finiky with code. Maybe AGD's engineers should re-examine the VHD code used and try and improve it a little bit.


From my experience in using a 22v10 in microprocessor lab, even if the code is logicall and syntactically correct, the code still might not work all the time. You have to be REALLY anal about coding the things down to a T. Cypress makes good chips (just look at the PSoC family of microcontrollers: dynamic built-in peripheral capability! ), it's just that the pld's are so tempermental sometimes.

[madmatt151]

Uhh I thought I was smart until I read this last post. I think I will go back to school now.

[Miscue]

Eh, my theory on it based from observation is: While the solenoid is pulling, it robs everything of power. The HES needs to be powered sufficiently, otherwise it will appear to be off by the board. The board picks this up, thinks the trigger is released, and then when power comes back up and the trigger is still held... picks it up as a new pull. Why on some, and not others... dunno.

Sir_Brass: It's on a 90S2313 Atmel on a custom PCB. There is nothing wrong with the code as far as this problem goes.

Edit: I'll double-check the code. I just thought of a possible issue.

[Steelrat]

Okay, so what is the solution?