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  • AGD
    The man from AGD

    • Oct 2000
    • 5916

    #46
    My comments to Warped WERE thinnly veiled. There are a lot of facts that I know as an industry person that I unfortunately can not share in public. It is frustrating to try and come from a postition of truth and constantly get beaten down.

    To me Warped's thinking perfectly represents the average paintball player. I have come to the conclusion that this will never change and occasionally I feel the need to lash out. It may have been harsh but in reality I truly think he is a pretty tough guy. He isn't afraid to voice counter opinions on this board no matter how unpopular. For some reason Warped you just push my button. If you want call me at work and we can talk about it.

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    • personman

      #47
      Originally posted by abarnhar
      Can we formalize this in some way?
      I know! Lets all shave our on/off pins to nothing so our guns will go 30 bps, then travel field to field shooting SP and electro users! mwuahhahahahahahaha
      heh

      SP, always was, and always will be evil.
      We really should riot..

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      • p8ntball1016

        #48
        how are they evil? they may be jackasses, but they are smart jackasses. i dont see you complaining about every non paintball company doing the same thing.

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        • gtrsi
          Automag?
          • Dec 2001
          • 5786

          #49
          fellas...

          This is classic. You have two camps in any industry, Those who love what they do and will do anything to contiue and those who will do anyting to make money.


          now run a mental picture over what companies you buy from and what they represent.

          I could be wrong but this is my list of guys that love what they do: AGD, AKA, OTB, Docs Machine, ICD, Palmer, Powerlyte, WDP, WGP and yes even tippmann. There are some unlisted, are they evil? Is there anything wrong with making money?


          I dont have the "Tom" insight so this is based on what little I know
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          • Meph
            AO's Tippmann Guy
            • Aug 2002
            • 737

            #50
            Originally posted by p8ntball1016
            chuck hendsch is no longer affiliated with dynasty.
            That's what he claimed but I don't believe it. And he had to make that statement after the turnout of NPPL New Jersey. If you were there you would know exactly what I'm talking about.

            SyntaxError knows the couple of incidents (or at least one) I'm talking about.

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            • p8ntball1016

              #51
              i was gonna go, considering i was 45 minutes away, but i aint gettin up at 6:30 just to get there at 8.

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              • Lohman446
                Useful posts: 7
                • Jun 2003
                • 9315

                #52
                Originally posted by Ov3rmind

                Several of the admin on PBN sold Angels to Dynasty and there are several Angel techs that know the team on there. I'd take their word over this article's.
                Somehow I HIGHLY doubt that any member of Dynasty has had to purchase a marker for a long time.
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                • Ov3rmind
                  Speechless
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 2637

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Lohman446


                  Somehow I HIGHLY doubt that any member of Dynasty has had to purchase a marker for a long time.
                  You doubt, I know. There are pictures of Oli Lang using ffry's space framed 03 LCD.
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                  • SyntaxError
                    OSK #3
                    • Sep 2001
                    • 621

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Meph


                    That's what he claimed but I don't believe it. And he had to make that statement after the turnout of NPPL New Jersey. If you were there you would know exactly what I'm talking about.

                    SyntaxError knows the couple of incidents (or at least one) I'm talking about.
                    Yeah, if anyone watched the finals game between Dynasty and Rage at NJ you KNOW something was up.

                    In addition the admins on PBN "selling" guns to Dynasty are HK (hostile kids) members, who do most of the trigger work and mods to their and the Dynasty kids' guns, spurring the name "HK Technology" with their magnetic trigger and "flipped microswitch" mods. More likely they bought the guns from Dynasty players and trade off considering they do work on lots of those guns anyway.
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                    • Ov3rmind
                      Speechless
                      • Nov 2001
                      • 2637

                      #55
                      Either way, they have closer ties with Dynasty then anyone else shooting their mouths off on here.

                      But just for fun :

                      ffry's spaceframed 03 (SyntaxError, they may have bought Dynasty guns, BUT ffry was the original owner of this one) in the hands of Ryan Greenspan,





                      And of course the Speed that was used for the HK vid on PBN:

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                      • theraidenproject
                        Registered User
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 1240

                        #56
                        Here's my opinon:
                        I don't care about what pro teams do at all. Unless I'm playing for one, that is. I am a teenager who just started playing tourneys, just the market this is supposed to impress, but I still don't give a crap. It is really stupid to take cues from people that are paid to do what they do (if that made sense), and I find it sad that so many of my age group do this, to say nothing of society as a whole outside paintball, but I'm not going to get into a rant about advertising and role-models and whatnot.
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                        • QUINCYMASSGUY
                          Registered User
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 914

                          #57
                          attitude

                          The same colorful, upbeat attitude that speedball ushered in and helped to make the game more well-known and played today is the same one that has become shallow and vulgar. It's a shame because now it is what is holding back the sport. I think it was gtrsi who listed the companies who are in it to make a living which is understandable but also do it because they love the game and respect the fact we are all here to play for the fun of it and it's not about acting tougher than everyone else, inflicting harm, winning no matter what it takes, and all of that filth that teams like Dynasty, Miami Effect, and the All Americans have brought to the sport and the influence their childish, offensive, violent (and I mean the excessive stuff, not the shooting involved in paintball), and greedy behavior has had in shaping the next generation of players to be nothing but scumbags and punks with few exceptions. Sad to say it, but you can't tell me you haven't seen a decline in the sportsmanship and respect people show the game now. It's disgusting and is partly why many people don't want to invest the time and money to take their game to the next level, like tourneys.

                          AGD, WGP, AKA, Tippman, and a handful of others would benefit from breaking away, starting their own "honor league" promoting a more professional game while still adhering to speedball style, but sadly too many giants like NPS and now SP with the threats of patents have a grip on the industry where these companies can't afford to try. It's sad because so many of them just want a quick buck.
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                          • BTAutoMag
                            AO's Problem Child
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 7199

                            #58
                            EVIL... all it is is more advertising... jees i wonder how much they made by giving away stuff
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                            • CodeMA
                              ...yep...
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 1455

                              #59
                              Im hearing 75 G off the top to Dynasty from SP....

                              I could care less about Dynasty...they have a few players I respect....but for the most part...they can "suck it"
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                              • Meph
                                AO's Tippmann Guy
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 737

                                #60
                                Originally posted by p8ntball1016
                                but i aint gettin up at 6:30 just to get there at 8.
                                Eh but when you're paid to go it's a much more beneficial motivator! Trust me.

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