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  • electriceel125
    Golden Gun 009
    • Nov 2003
    • 875

    #1

    AGD SP Patent

    I had a thought which may have already been addressed, but i wondered if AGD could patent the single tube body designe and in turn sue SP for infringing or is it to late for something like that?
    Last edited by electriceel125; 11-27-2003, 09:49 PM.
  • LaW
    Why play?
    • Oct 2000
    • 3124

    #2
    First of all spell AGD correctly....

    also some of you people are going way overboard on this whole smart parts thing. They went after one company and signed a few things with a couple other. I have not seen them going after anyone else.


    to answer your original question .... NO
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    • Cryer
      Paintball is over.
      • Nov 2002
      • 4105

      #3
      In either case, thats not how AGD plays.
      Thats like a little kid hiding his mommie's car keys when he doesnt get his way...


      They arent out for revenge...


      (are you, Tom? )

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      • edweird
        IP lawsuits > innovation
        • Dec 2001
        • 1859

        #4
        If Tk was out for revenge... im sure he would make it much more devious...

        and yeah like Cryer said... not how AGD plays.

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        • xXhAppyAznXx
          Ken, Eagle Scout
          • Mar 2003
          • 2473

          #5
          or so you'd think...

          SP wants to play hardball, so sooner or later, they ll be dead


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          • WARPED1
            I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
            • Nov 2001
            • 7458

            #6
            Originally posted by LaW
            First of all spell AGD correctly....

            also some of you people are going way overboard on this whole smart parts thing. They went after one company and signed a few things with a couple other. I have not seen them going after anyone else.


            to answer your original question .... NO
            What he said......................
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            • cphilip
              Former Moderator

              • Jun 2026
              • 16216

              #7
              I expect, and many others as well expect, SP will come after everyone eventualy. From largest to smallest. If they do not then they forefit there argument and their stance on this. Not to say that they can make "sweetheart deals" if they chose with people along the way. But still they will have to follow through all the way now. With everyone.

              I expect Tom will enforce any patents he has wether he wants to or not to make a living in this new paintball world we are entering.

              Thats the new playing field. Not of his chosing but it's the reality of it.


              AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

              cphilip.com

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              • sneakyhacker420
                AO's Uber Green Guru
                • Aug 2002
                • 1247

                #8
                if AGD patents the single tube design, say goodbye to matrices, 03 shockers, tippmanns, titans or w/e they are and a few others
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                • LaW
                  Why play?
                  • Oct 2000
                  • 3124

                  #9
                  Originally posted by sneakyhacker420
                  if AGD patents the single tube design, say goodbye to matrices, 03 shockers, tippmanns, titans or w/e they are and a few others
                  You are overlooking the fact that AGD cannot patent a design that was developed too long ago. You only have so much time to file a patent
                  Taking a long needed leave of the sport to finish school and tour the country

                  b2k3w/pds, vaporized, vapor valve, aka sidewinder, chaos chip, palmer rock lpr, CP barrels, 68/45 hyperflow

                  B2k3 w/pds and bunch of upgrades for sale

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                  • LaW
                    Why play?
                    • Oct 2000
                    • 3124

                    #10
                    Originally posted by cphilip
                    I expect, and many others as well expect, SP will come after everyone eventualy. From largest to smallest. If they do not then they forefit there argument and their stance on this. Not to say that they can make "sweetheart deals" if they chose with people along the way. But still they will have to follow through all the way now. With everyone.

                    I expect Tom will enforce any patents he has wether he wants to or not to make a living in this new paintball world we are entering.

                    Thats the new playing field. Not of his chosing but it's the reality of it.


                    Exactly, in my opinion this can be good or bad for paintball. I just see it as paintball as an industry is just growing big. We are so used to the industry being one way, a company like smart parts decides to push it another way and I guess its fine that people get upset with tha
                    Taking a long needed leave of the sport to finish school and tour the country

                    b2k3w/pds, vaporized, vapor valve, aka sidewinder, chaos chip, palmer rock lpr, CP barrels, 68/45 hyperflow

                    B2k3 w/pds and bunch of upgrades for sale

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                    • Tunaman
                      Specialized AGD Tech

                      • Dec 2000
                      • 8643

                      #11
                      I personally would like to see Tom enforce every patent he owns. He designed it, prototyped it, made it, and sold it. He deserves his slice of the pie just like everyone else. If they want to play hard ball, they better get ready to start swinging.:o
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                      • 50 cal
                        The evil voices win today
                        • Nov 2000
                        • 960

                        #12
                        Waaaay too many people are making a big fuss over this SP crapola. So what if they win, what will they do, make you turn your brand new Frazimatic paintslinger in to them? NOT!
                        Let SP be. It's no worse than other apintball companies have done to screw other companies. They are all still around and we are still playing.

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                        • cphilip
                          Former Moderator

                          • Jun 2026
                          • 16216

                          #13
                          I give ya a good reason... because eventualy you sqeeze enough people out for one reason or another you end up with no competition. And with that gone you get what they want you to have at the price they want you to pay.

                          Second reason. If you dissillusion the visonary "tinkerers" from developing things by concern what they develop might in some small way be challenged and never appliedd they just say the heck with this business and go into something rewarding and care free rather than develop things that will be marketable at some point.

                          I look at this as like someone patenting "the bullet" and then every Firearms Manufacturer now having to cow tow to the owner of the patent of "the bullet". Why? Its a basic concept well entrenched since the early AD! Using electrons to fire off or trigger something to happen is so rudimentary it should never be patented just because you apply it to Paintball. And should never be allowed to bully other companies into compliance just because they cannot afford to fight it. It is indeed a travesy of justice. And it should be delt with FEDERALY. Not by the small companies being bullied into complinace. It HAS VERY LITTLE TO DO WITH IF IT'S GOOD OR BAD FOR PAINTBALL! It has everything to do with patent laws and how rediculous it is to allow someone to alter an old patent to apply it to something like Paintball. Or any other industry for that matter. Its not even theirs to APPLY! It is totaly wrong and totally in error of all that is right in business and patent law! Thats the issue. I could care less who is doing it. It's bad for Business as a precident in EVERY business. Its a travesty of justice and fair trade in my opinion. I have no ill will twords SP. I liked thier products. But I am against injustice. And I am against what I see as improper application of patent laws.

                          I could be wrong but thats how I see it.

                          I feel better now.


                          AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

                          cphilip.com

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                          • p8ntball1016

                            #14
                            Originally posted by edweird
                            If Tk was out for revenge... im sure he would make it much more devious...

                            and yeah like Cryer said... not how AGD plays.
                            agd is more secretive. tom kaye would have a black ops elf force waiting in loyalhanna, pa awaiting his explicit orders. hey, these elves are choking me!

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                            • WARPED1
                              I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                              • Nov 2001
                              • 7458

                              #15
                              What makes me laugh, is when anti SP zombies say " SP are so communist like the Nazis!"
                              The Nazi's were facists ..........
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