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  • sniper1rfa
    (Not a Wang Force member.)
    • Aug 2001
    • 1107

    #16
    you wont see any difference. Air might have a higher moisture content because it isnt refined, but who cares? HPA and compressed nitrogen are both ideal gasses as we use them. they act essentially the same. (actually, they DO act the same for our purposes).
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    • OfficerGoat
      My Liver! My Liver!
      • May 2003
      • 532

      #17
      I think I'm going to try Compressed O2 in my gun

      DISCLAIMER This is meant as a stupid comment, using pure oxigen is a very bad idea..... unless you intend to use your gun as a hand grenade...Seriously its that bad/DISCLAIMER
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      • Kevmaster
        Owners Group Div: Director
        • Oct 2001
        • 5475

        #18
        Originally posted by sniper1rfa
        you wont see any difference. Air might have a higher moisture content because it isnt refined, but who cares? HPA and compressed nitrogen are both ideal gasses as we use them. they act essentially the same. (actually, they DO act the same for our purposes).
        sniper hit it on the nose. They're both acting as ideal gasses, and for our purposes...thats ENOUGH!

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        • magking1971
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          • May 2001
          • 1089

          #19
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          • Ityl
            Registered User
            • Nov 2000
            • 706

            #20
            If you are using air from a scuba or dry air then it will be hard to see a difference from nitrogen. But air straight from the atmosphere likes to expand a lot more than nitrogen when heated, mostly because of the moisture that's in it.

            I would think this would be very important in an RT valve because it already heats the gas more than other guns. So using clean N2 should yeild the best consistency, even over dry air.
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            • SSMercury
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              • Jun 2002
              • 212

              #21
              No, the're not ideal gases, we compress them too much to act as such.

              There really isn't much difference between the two, for our purposes. All we care about is flow rate, and how much push it can give (He flows REALLY fast, but just spreads out too fast to push a paintball, and is rather expensive for a gas for paintball. There was a discussion on that before I left a year ago, on alternate gases. I think we came to the conclusion that Neon or Argon would be the only real alternate gases appropriate for use for paintball propellant.)

              And, as someone said, make sure it's filtered appropriately.

              Lohman, air is a mixture of gases that equalize almost instantly. The gases diffuse to equilibrium so quickly that it's pretty homogenous, to the point of insignificance.
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              • sniper1rfa
                (Not a Wang Force member.)
                • Aug 2001
                • 1107

                #22
                nah, neon and argon dont work any better, i have tried both. Helium leaks out real fast. just differences in weight. weight has nothing to do with energy available to us. 3000 psi is 3000 psi, it doesnt have anything to do with the gas. Same thing as 300 fps being 300 fps, despite the gun.

                spreads out too fast to push a ball? huh? thats how it pushes the ball, by spreading out.
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                • Muzikman
                  Everything AGD
                  • Dec 2000
                  • 6229

                  #23
                  Helium would leak because of the size of molecules. They are too small and leak past the orings. Argon works, but no better than N2 or Compressed air and it's more expensive. I don't know anyone to have tried neon, but it would be about the same as argon, but even more expensive.

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                  • 1ofkind
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                    • Sep 2003
                    • 1063

                    #24
                    nitrogen just sounds cooler
                    Last edited by 1ofkind; 11-30-2003, 08:06 PM.
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                    • Rope a Dope
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                      • Oct 2003
                      • 407

                      #25
                      Originally posted by 1ofkind
                      nitrogen just sounds cooler
                      Very true.

                      People think all paintball guns use air. When you tell them you use high pressure air they say they can fill your tank with their shop compressor, and it's a good one cause it's big! lol

                      Say you use Nitrogen and they give you an amazed look like paintballw as invented by NASA.

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