emag or shocker?

[Bucky]

after owning both guns, i'd have to say shocker. i've never shot a gun faster than the shocker.

[FragTek]

Originally posted by Bucky
after owning both guns, i'd have to say shocker. i've never shot a gun faster than the shocker.

That's sad.

[matt-o]

fragtek dont talk anymore your exactly the kind of person i didnt want answering this.

[Bucky]

haha, right. im sure you think the 03 is like the older shockers. i could never get my emag to shoot 18bps, but i can with my shocker.

[FragTek]

Originally posted by Bucky
haha, right. im sure you think the 03 is like the older shockers. i could never get my emag to shoot 18bps, but i can with my shocker.

ROFL! I'm a store owner buddy I sell '03 Shockers all day long. And if you didnt know, AGD released the 3.2 software, which will get you up and shooting 20bps in no time! (Which also happens to be the ROF cap on the '03 Shocker) Once Miscue gets his software released, the mags will be sitting with timmy's and trixes for speed.

And after repairing numerous Shockers, I know for a fact that the quality of these guns isn't up to par with the mags. Most of the problems are coming from faulty / cheap boards.

[Lohman446]

I got hold of an 03 shocker, and used it some, when it came down to electronic guns there were very few on my list.

Viking or Excalibur
03 Shocker

I did not loike the E-mag, I did not like the Sandridge Autocockers I have had a chance to shoot. The Viking and Shocker felt right to me, in the end I decided I wanted the reliability of mechanical operation and did not need the speed of electronics. I have been totally happy with my choice.

It comes down t owhat you like the feel of, yeh the 03 shocker is not efficient, but to me it was not an issue.

[FragTek]

Vikings are WONDERFUL guns. Very fast, very efficient, and very reliable. Extremely well built guns! They are unstopable with a WAS board and eyes. The new JMJ Featherlite Viking (and Excalibur) is a great example of a fine piece of machinery. If you get a chance do a search for the 40cps Viking Vid, its amazing!

The Viking's are on my top 3 list of favorite guns.

[Bucky]

Originally posted by FragTek

ROFL! I'm a store owner buddy I sell '03 Shockers all day long.

well pin a rose on your nose. no mines not faulty, no i haven't had problems, and regardless of what type of software is in the emag, -I'M- not going to be able to shoot the emag nearly as fast as i can my shocker.

[FragTek]

I never said they all were. But the numbers are higher than any other gun coming in for repairs, well not THE highest, we repair more Impulses than anything else (another fine piece of equipment by SP, lol), followed closely by the Shocker as they aren't quite as popular as the Impy at this point. I am also not saying that you personally will ever have a problem with your Shocker, because I know people that have owned them since day one and they are still ticking like a dream, but lots, and I mean LOTS of them have serious issues.

[hAppy]

emag

[wobbles82]

In the end AT THIS POINT of the Shockers lifespan, I think the Emag is the best choice. It seems you are leaning towards the Shocker, which IMO is a very nice marker, the quality is not yet up to par but they are indeed lighter than an Emag, with a stock trigger setup (no trigger messing) it is definately faster, and the balance of the marker is quite nice. The Emag is also very light now, balances out nicely, and can be set to be crazy crazy fast. As of now it seems the Shocker would win, but we have to factor in the almost lack of manual and support the marker has, the common problems assosciated with its delayed and untimed release, and quality control problems. If you dont plan to get Vision especially, the Emag will destroy the Shocker. I dont care how low you have that marker running, I can run my Timmy at 65 psi and turn off the eyes and still chop(rarely, but hey chop is chop), you WILL need an eye in the long run on that marker. The Emag really shouldnt chop with a finely tuned Level Ten, and that is the selling point. If you have the cash when Dynasty's Shocker comes out im sure it will be a marker of good taste, they only use stuff they want to use such as putting an ACE on their Angels, so im sure some innovations are going to be made with the Shocker sometime in the near future.

[matt-o]

yeah the thing is that i know that the shockers gonna become an incredible machine after some of those new parts like an otb vert frame and bolt kit and maybe a new board like the was come out. ive already emailed some of the companies that might make those and am waiting for replies.

now on the other hand the emag is an amazing machine as it is now but its not gonna be improved upon much more (unless agd makes something incredible which they very well might).

also speed is better on the emag but 15bps is easily reachable on both and thats about when people cant run through a stream or paint anymore after that i dont really care, the rest is just bragging rights

[FragTek]

Very true. If you really decide upon going with the Shocker, i recommend waiting maybe another month - 2 months to see if they get some of the common problems taken care of with them. I would love to see them redesign the board for the Shocker, that gun has serious potential.

[speedballjunky]

ill make it real easy for you.

smartparts = the devil
AGD (E Mag) = awesome

... I just read an article by Doc Nickel on how Smartparts is a greedy, evil company with money as their only interest.

Here it is. I encourage everyone to read it.

http://www.vm68.com/stuff/smart_parts_is_evil.html

[matt-o]

okay again EXACTLY what i didnt want to hear because the way i see it is that the shocker is 700 the emag is 900 and i cant decide on the performance so who is really concerned about their money here AGD or SP? dont get me wrong i love AGD and mags (i own a classic) but i see the shocker as the next impulse, its not gonna go obsolete because it will be so upgradeable. but after the ule body the emag is as upgraded as its gonna get without dumping *** loads of money into it.