AGD Kids win Country Club 3 man

**tony3** · 12-01-2003, 06:34 PM

Originally posted by frost
god y is everyone knockin on the pride for entering local tournments i would care if they showed up at a local tournment i play in sure id get a a$$ kicked but hey its the pride!

p.s. see that u guys already got really nice markers u wanna send me one of the shockers!

its cool if they enter local tournies....not novice ones though

**spore 283** · 12-01-2003, 07:31 PM

We played in the am division for 2 tournments this year. All the others we played as novice. There were some rookie teams but there was also alot of teams there that have played togeter for a very long time. It wasen't like we walked all over everyone. We had some tough games. 2 prelim games came down to us 1 them 3. The social d team has played in the pro division before. I don't see any one crying about them playing. So if you ask me I think all you cry babies need to quit feeling sorry for yourselfs. If we were such an shame why couldn't you say anything to us at the tourny. You wait to talk crap behind your computer. SHUT UP AND GET OFF THE FIELD THERES NO CRYING IN PAINTBALL.

CHESTER,AGDLION-KID

**frost** · 12-01-2003, 07:35 PM

well said

**agdemagman69** · 12-01-2003, 07:47 PM

**Big_Chops** · 12-01-2003, 08:29 PM

congrats guys! keep rockin. and just ignore these guys they are a bunch of whiners. i got ur back its all good.

**Brian Terry AGD** · 12-01-2003, 09:06 PM

you only get better if you play people better then you are.the nppl and psp has the kids as novice ...good job guys .see you in jan chester....

**LaW** · 12-01-2003, 09:20 PM

Some of you people talking crap about them playing in local tournaments... I really dont respect you guys... Perhaps its jealousy that you are not on a team? Perhaps you cant play very well? I dont have all the answers but its very disrespectful.

**CoFFeY[NiTrO]** · 12-01-2003, 10:28 PM

way to go guys. Chester, you kick arse.

('03 shockers?)

**wimag** · 12-01-2003, 10:28 PM

Originally posted by frost
god y is everyone knockin on the pride for entering local tournments i wouldnt care if they showed up at a local tournment i play in sure id get a a$$ kicked but hey its the pride!

when and if you ever play in tournies you will see where some of the resentment comes from. Tournies are not cheap and if a team feels another team is sandbagging, well it tends to rub them the wrong way.
I am not saying they were sandbagging, the field let them enter, I assume the field has heard their track record.

Players who want to improve their game compete above their level without whining, those who dont will.

Frost, local tournie at BFG in 2 weeks, put your money down and show up. See you there.

Good job AGD Kids !!!

**tony3** · 12-01-2003, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by LaW
Some of you people talking crap about them playing in local tournaments... I really dont respect you guys... Perhaps its jealousy that you are not on a team? Perhaps you cant play very well? I dont have all the answers but its very disrespectful.

I dont think you understand, this tourney wasn't any special novice, it was a lower level novice tourney, sure there were some good teams, but agd lions are a very good team and have an awesome track record, but to walk into a local novice tourney which is much below their level of play just to get some quick cash? Kind of shows the integrity of the team. Also, less experienced teams don't appreciate this either. They didn't pay a lot of money to get rocked by a far more experienced team.

Say what you want, thats my 2 cents.

**Tony D.** · 12-01-2003, 10:35 PM

Good job guys!! You beat guys who are 10x worse than you.

Go agd, woooooo!!!!!!!!

**LaW** · 12-01-2003, 10:48 PM

Originally posted by tony3

I dont think you understand, this tourney wasn't any special novice, it was a lower level novice tourney, sure there were some good teams, but agd lions are a very good team and have an awesome track record, but to walk into a local novice tourney which is much below their level of play just to get some quick cash? Kind of shows the integrity of the team. Also, less experienced teams don't appreciate this either. They didn't pay a lot of money to get rocked by a far more experienced team.

Say what you want, thats my 2 cents.

Well those teams better practice more and get better ... If it was such a problem then the teams should have complained to the field running the event and the people running the event should have stepped in. I can see where the people getting all worked up over this are coming from but personally I think its a load of crap

**Big_Chops** · 12-01-2003, 10:57 PM

i am with law on this one

if it was bothering them they shoulda said somthing instead of comming on here to moan and groan. when now nothing can be done about it

**kevinkills99** · 12-01-2003, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by LaW

Well those teams better practice more and get better ... If it was such a problem then the teams should have complained to the field running the event and the people running the event should have stepped in. I can see where the people getting all worked up over this are coming from but personally I think its a load of crap

Law, you don't understand. Comments were said to the management, by me and other players, but they still allowed it. There are always people in the industry that are buddy buddy with each other, and since Tom K. visits the field, I think the owners and the reffs looked the other way on this. Give me a break chester, you had a tough time? You maxed every single game in prelims. Sorry but when you spend at least 200$ in a local tourney, you don't expect Pro's to sub in, or experienced NPPL/PSP teams of a higher division to step in. Both the field owners/managers, reffs, and sandbaggers are at fault. It was a little obvious things were unfair after objectional calls were made, and all the reffs and employees are sitting around and chatting with the AGD teams. This was a disappointment for AGD and all players who payed to play in this event. You AGD people don't care right? I mean, after all, they used mags, you people weren't playing, so it's all good? Cut the cult following BS.

**LaW** · 12-01-2003, 11:12 PM

Originally posted by kevinkills99

Law, you don't understand. Comments were said to the management, by me and other players, but they still allowed it. There are always people in the industry that are buddy buddy with each other, and since Tom K. visits the field, I think the owners and the reffs looked the other way on this. Give me a break chester, you had a tough time? You maxed every single game in prelims. Sorry but when you spend at least 200$ in a local tourney, you don't expect Pro's to sub in, or experienced NPPL/PSP teams of a higher division to step in. Both the field owners/managers, reffs, and sandbaggers are at fault. It was a little obvious things were unfair after objectional calls were made, and all the reffs and employees are sitting around and chatting with the AGD teams. This was a disappointment for AGD and all players who payed to play in this event. You AGD people don't care right? I mean, after all, they used mags, you people weren't playing, so it's all good? Cut the cult following BS.

Well first I dont consider myself some kind of cult follower. I dont always want to stick up for the company I have been loyal too for 6 years. Coming from someone that has been in local tournaments where there were more experienced teams playing I know that I welcome the challenge and that the teams I have played for in the past have put a lot of practice work in that I feel come any sunday we could have went out and taken it all. I still play local novice tournaments because the teams I play on usually are made up of new players getting into the scene. I do understand, and when only a couple of people are complaining about them playing I dont feel thats enough. If you really didn't want to "throw your money away" you would have just demanded a full refund and just leave the tournament.

And just once more, I am not slinging any cult following BS

My posts are kind of looking at a more general outlook on "experienced" players playing local tournaments. Teams have to start somewhere, if they let losing a little in their first tournament get to them without wanting to improve themselves then I think they are not playing for the right reasons.