busy, or impy?

[tippihater]

in your opinions what would be the best choice, impy or busy?

[JesseB]

Impulse, more upgrades, faster, looks better, lighter, and you can get a custom model for fairly reasonable. Oh and the resale is alot better than bushmasters.

But I would personally skip that step and get a used gun for the money you can pick up an Angel, matrix, emag, or nice cocker and you will probably be alot happier with the performance.

[Timmee]

I voted for the Bushmaster. I love mine. It's the fastest, most reliable marker I currently own (I had a Timmy as well, but I sold it and kept the Bushy). The only gripe I've got is the wiring harness can get screwed up if you're not careful.

My BM2K's stats:

1st gen Silver BM2K
Chaos Max chip
blade trigger
lighter trigger spring
Black Magic cup seal
MacDev teflon ball detent
Stock HPR converted to gas thru
114/4500 Maxflo
SS Freak

I haven't messed with it too much, but I'm hoping to add the following soon:

Vapor mods
Hoseless FMD
Vapor No-Rise
Vapor harness (stronger wiring, high intensity LED, and lighter microswitch)
SP mod (possibly)

[personman]

Bushmaster 2k3, comes upgraded, faster, looks better, and its lighter. If we're comparing which is better stock, its defentally a NO BRAINER! Stock impulse blows. You have to upgrade so many things before you can even get it working decently.

[fancynapkin]

Originally posted by JesseB
Impulse, more upgrades, faster, looks better, lighter, and you can get a custom model for fairly reasonable. Oh and the resale is alot better than bushmasters.

But I would personally skip that step and get a used gun for the money you can pick up an Angel, matrix, emag, or nice cocker and you will probably be alot happier with the performance.

not faster, imps are capped at like 20, b2k3's are capped at like 32. the stock trigger on imps SUCK, so how can you say they are faster?

HAHA, a stock imp looks better than bushmasters? yeah right, b2k3's already come with sweet milling. they look better than rat impys.

impulses wiegh more than bushys, ask anyone who has shot both.

[68magOwner]

umm, it dosent matter what a guns capped at, i mean theres boards capped at 66.6, but the gun cant cycle and feed that fast, 20 bps is fast enough, i dunno wich is faster, but i like bushy's better because ive seen so many imps break down

[DK1]

If I were looking at a new marker, the bushmaster would be my choice. The 2k3 with PDS (which is a break beam eye system, and is in a lot of respects, superior to the reflective eye in impulses) is really nice... I've had two this year.

They are lighter stock than impulses, and the shocktech bushmaster was the lightest electro available until the new shocker came out. They are very fast, even stock. The new 2k3's come with autococker barrel threads. The new grip frames are really nice, and VERY adjustable. As far as upgrades, the bushmaster has as many upgrades available as it needs, honestly. I have one that is all stock except for the LPR piston, and I got +/- 2fps the last time I played. Bushmasters don't suffer from FSDO nearly as bad as impulses... acutally, most bushmasters never have FSDO, but I have seen one or two people that claim to have had it.

You can buy a LPR made by Mac Dev that is made exclusively for the bushmaster, or you can get a hoseless adapter and use a rock or scm. That's an option you won't find on an impulse, because the impulse doesn't come with a LPR stock. Oh, and you won't need a tapeworm either.

The bushmaster is the format for which the Chaos board was originally designed. It's cheap (~$75), and it's VERY nice. It's comparable to a WAS equalizer board, but about $60 cheaper. Actually, they are working on a Chaos board for the intimidator, and so far it's looking nice.

If you're looking for upgrades, which I might add that the bushmaster really doesn't need many, the bushmaster now has parts made to replace anything on the entire gun. Triggers, frames, LPRS, rams (as soon as the MAC ram passes testing), bolts, valves... you name it, somebody makes it. That is, with the exception of the tray I think. BUT, the Bushy really has no mandatory upgrades... the weak spot currently is the stock board (IMO), but it's much better than a lot of stock electronics (higher cap than the impulse anyway).

Bushmasters get pretty decent efficiency, and they are capable of attaining GREAT efficiency when tuned properly.

There's a guy here local that has a really nice Strange Impulse. It's neat looking. But my basically bone stock bushmaster is easier to shoot fast, and gets better consistency.

Basically, there's a reason I've owned two this year. I traded the first one, then realized I shouldn't have. Then I bought another one. I'm sold on them.

DK1

[JesseB]

Thats why you see so many bushies at tourneys and so many custom bushys being sold...

so the trigger sucks stock, go and buy a blade. I shoot impulses and honestly I like them. Bushy's arent bad guns I just think the Impulse because of the after market and the size of sp has much more potential to be a faster and more reliable marker. I have never had experience with icd products first hand but my friend had a 3rd gen bushy and it was nice but it had alot of problems. But what gun doesn't have stories like that, even the allmighty xmag has had its share of bad luck.

But honestly you are just going to get a "better" gun in a bit anyway cause thats what ballers do so you might as well either buy a custom gun to save on upgrades or get something a little higher end. Sure it will cost more and take longer to get but the end result will be cheaper than buying a gun and upgradeing it the trying to sell it and get something new.

[tony3]

I had the same option and I went imp for a few reasons. Much better resale, I knew I wasn't going to keep this gun for to long. The imp has much more potential then the bushy, with a was board and iframe imps completely rock the house. Bushy resale blows, I have seen bushies with every upgrade out there go for around 500, thats just plain low. Say whatever you want about sp low quality, bad stock parts but its a fact that a imp has more potential then the bushy it completely rock. Stock regs on bushies are alos no good(not sure if they are included with glads now), but the ones that I have seen are terrible. Stock reg on imps are awesome and can handle c02 like no other high end gun. The barrel one stock imps are awesome for a newer player that can't up it right away. Can't say that about imps. You can get a stock imp with blade trigge and lpr from www.e-paintballoutlet.com for only 450, that has 2 basic upgrades. The only thing you need then is a new bolt and a was board. Sure, you can get other upgrades, but are they nessacary? No.

[Barfly]

ehh just get a viking they rip stock, plus they come stock with some of the best parts, so you might actually end up saving money by buying something you don't have to upgrade.

[hAppy]

always this debate

i prefer bushy, they look better than base imps
PDS better than vision
bushy shorter than imp
bushy less blocky
bushy dont have that FSDO BS
bushys dont need that huge maxflow vert reg

so and so

[JesseB]

but some people dont like bushys, and impulses are gonna have the option of WAS shortly. can you say that about bushys? nope.

but yeah get a viking or matrix or something cooler.

[hAppy]

theres a chaos and tantrum chip

whats your point? its pretty much equal to the WAS

[Timmee]

Originally posted by JesseB
but some people dont like bushys, and impulses are gonna have the option of WAS shortly. can you say that about bushys? nope.

but yeah get a viking or matrix or something cooler.

The WAS board for the Timmy or the Impulse will also run the Bushmaster (they function the same, so it makes sense). However, as xXhAppyAznXx stated, there are equal products available (which are significantly cheaper to boot).

[Goldie D Pimp]

And as far as the

"why don't the pro's use them" question....


Because ICD hasn't spend hundreds of thousands of dollars paying teams to use their guns.

You KNOW if a pro team were using them they'd be much more popular.