ULE-Sydarm?!??

[ShaftyMcGee]

sir_brass- only problem i see with the minimag body design is that you'd have to make an entirely new body which means the cost will go up.

Meph- true it is pistol like still it just isn't very eye pleasing to have another tube hanging from the from line that. thats my opinion though. i think one on the side, top, or in the grip would be best

[Sir_Brass]

yeah, it would cost more money. I see your point. Stick that QC in the grip frame. It'd look awkard on top and would require a body redesign. A gripframe redesign wouldn't be half as expensive as designing a new gripframe to handle a 12g QC.

[Jack & Coke]

Hope this helps you with ideas...

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=103967

[ShaftyMcGee]

J&C thats almost EXACTLY what im aiming for, cept 12 gram changer in the grip and a freak with one of doc's flashpoints

[Sir_Brass]

one question, how do we prevent liquid Co2 from getting into the valve? this is a pistol, remember, and it will most likely be holstered when not in use, thus allowing liquid past the pin valve. can we include an x-chamber in there anywhere or a sideline stab or something to reduce the amount of liquid CO2 from going into the AIR valve?

[Meph]

Sir Brass that's exactly why I thought of the idea with the 12-gram going horizontal with the body. When shooting, it's all parallel. When holstered no liquid would flow in.

Not only that, but the overall cost for an entire kit with just a new ASA adapter bolted onto the rail would be dramatically less than the cost of a whole new grip frame design. Probably at least $100 less.

[than205]

My thought was an AGD back bottle adapter holding a quick change. And that feeding out to a Palmer Side-line.

I talked to a couple of fellow tinkerers at Shatnerball this year. One guy mentioned that half (if not all) a 12 gram would be used up fillng the system. So, my question is does anyone make a quick changer that would keep the system charged after a change out?

[sneakyhacker420]

no... and 12g's on a mag would be useless, would stop cycling pretty fast becuase of the rapid drop in pressure as the 12g is emptied

just get a 3.5oz BE co2 tank and run a bottomline




J&C, does the action markers feed neck come angel threaded?



and a palmers sideline with a 12g is completely useless


im tired and don't feel like arguing with people with some pretty useless ideas right now... but oh well


just my .02 for now

[Timmee]

Why not start with a slug, and mill the feed to accept the PT clips directly? As far as the power source goes, there's a new type of disposable cartridge out, that hold (IIRC) about 3 oz. of CO2. It's smaller than a refillable tank, and is shaped similar to a 12g cartridge. I know Wal-Mart sells them, but I'm not sure if anyone else does.

[than205]

It's hard to holster if it were on a front ASA. (even a 3.5 oz) This is the only reason I consider a 12 gram an option. Of course C/A would be the preference, but we are considering a Sydarm replacement. I like the idea of the sideline for efficienies sake, but I agree that it would take the entire 12 gram to charge the system. A 3.5 seems kinda bulky for a Sidearm. (maybe not)

Timmee,
That's a thought. It'd be kinda funky looking.

[Miscue]

Originally posted by Jack & Coke
Hope this helps you with ideas...

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=103967

/me wonders how hard it would be to convert that to a warp adaptor...

[Jack & Coke]

Originally posted by sneakyhacker420


J&C, does the action markers feed neck come angel threaded?

yes

[tony3]

Originally posted by Miscue


/me wonders how hard it would be to convert that to a warp adaptor...

I think you are on to something.....

[ShaftyMcGee]

i understand all the issues with the 12-gram but they managed to do it with a sydarm so i dont see why you cant do it with this, unless the valve was totally redesigned for sydarms. any one have a cross section of a sydarm valve?

Tuna- that would probably be the most practical idea, but the ULE has the advatages of all ready being milled and annodized, trying to keep this low cost.