so what is your deccision on the shocker or speed me to am not sure what to get
shocker or speed
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consider where your posting this dude, its an ANGEL OWNERS FORUM. WE'RE GONNA SAY SPEED. the shocker, imo, is a DECENT gun but the speed is by far a better gun.[*img]http://www.browndotdesign.com/Xodus/AO/YeahThatsMe.jpg[/img]
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well I own a lcd and a shocker so my opinion is this on the matter. If you want a proven design that works great go with the angel. If you want something new and really light go with the shocker. Both of these markers work rail but right now I've noticed that some of the shockers aren't finised correctly on the inside and scratch up the bolt. Usually not a huge problem but the bolt is used to seal the air chamber in the shocker causing a noticeable air leak(which is a $60 dollar replacement). So I would say if you are looking to get one right now go with the speed if you want to wait a while SP is coming out with new bolts that are supposed to be titanium coated to fix any problems with the stock delrin one getting scratch which is going to be around $150.00. Hope this helps you out a little price wise the angel is cheaper as well.
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Had 3 angels....on a whim bought a shocker...i love angels but i now use mine as a backup .
shocker is so light and fast.
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Ok let war commence
This thread will be better served for extra opinions in Paintball Talk so thats where it's heading
gonna leave it here in the Angel section for 30 mins before it moves
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Shockers performance wise may be slightly better, mainly in size, and speed slightly, but there are still some kinks being worked out.Love Will Tear Us Apart
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SpeeD...cause is fast/light/acurate/great with gas/very low kick if any/with Angels you can styalize your gun!...
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go with the speed man, tried, proven, reliable.
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Gee thanks Mark! I not sure it belongs anywhere myself!Originally posted by MarkM
Ok let war commence
This thread will be better served for extra opinions in Paintball Talk so thats where it's heading
gonna leave it here in the Angel section for 30 mins before it moves
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Speed for numerous reasons. Its built better, not as cheap of anno, doesnt chop (03 shockers WITH vision chop like a mother) they are faster, and made by WDP. Oh ya, and smart parts sucks because, well, everybody knows by now. Going after AKA is just wrong.
Blah, dont get a shocker...you will regret it. All they are are buggy matrixes.
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The Speed comes now with a twist lock gated feed, the 3sum volumiser and the soft bolt. No need for any upgrades. As for the Shocker, you'll want the Evolve bolt kit to improve the abismal efficiency, the LPR kit that isn't released yet, a better eye system that can detect black shelled paint and probably a better board. Right now, it's playable out of the box, but there's alot of room for improvement.
The Shocker is much lighter and smaller compared to the Speed, but still, I would take a Speed any day.
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I guess ive been lucky, my shocker hasnt had any problems at all. I havent chopped any balls out of 3 cases so far, and there is no FDSO. I use a halo b, and yes I walk my trigger. The vision works as a impulse vision does, forced mode of course. To me sensi is just crap, but the angel is still more proven as of now. (yes I still like angels alot, just not their chop-prevention systems.)
PS: I agree the anno is crap right now on my shocker, but oh well.Smart Parts 2003 Shocker /w Vision
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