anti-chop eyes

[TheTomBomb]

Do these eyes really work? I have heard that they don't work as well as the company says they do and that they still chop balls.

Also, I can't decide what new gun I should get. RT pro, Emag, or Timmy. Which one?

[paintballer7_7_7]

Well it needs thought

I know that you want a reasonable answer from some people here but your answer will be a little biased. Thats do to the fact that your on an automag owners forum. So what i am going to do is give you the ups and downs of each gun.

timmy-good-fast, nicelooking, a beast
bad-lots of kick

emag-good-fast,magnetic trigger, awesome
bad-heavy, little kick, need to upgrade it with an ule and a new barrel (system prefferable)

RT PRO-NEVER USED IT I WOULD SAY GO WITH AN E-Mag


But who cares what i think

[TheTomBomb]

What kind of barrel system should I get? And what about the anti chop eyes? I mean do they work, because if they work well I might try and get an xmag. and thanks for the input.

[TheTramp]

If you are dealing with a Mag then the ant-chop eyes don't really matter because the L10 will stop a chop mecanicly basicly all of the time. The X-Mag has both and I guess it's a question of better safe than sorry.

On other guns anti-chop eyes are critical (IMHO) because they don't have the mechanical anti-chop systems. The different guns have different types of eye systems and but they mostly work pretty well. With that said, like anything, they aren't perfect. There will always be a chance of chopping simply due to the fact that there will always be some balls that are so defective that nothing can save them.

I hope that helps a little.

[FragTek]

Ive heard mixed things on the E/X-Mag ACE system. I hear it works pretty decently, but not nearly as consistently as some of these new-fangled ACE systems on the market (WAS eyes are a good example of some nice eyes), the AGD eyes don't auto-adjust to paint color, which isnt a big deal if you just take the time to change your sensor setting before you play to accomodate which type of paint you are using (unless you are shooting mixed paint, then you have to hope for the best). But, all-in-all, an ACE system for the electro mags is just kind of a reassurance that you won't chop, since you shouldn't be chopping to start with thanks to our good buddy LX.

So to answer your final question, I think you have listed three awesome guns, which you should go to the field and try out each to find which gun suits you best. Between the guns that you listed I would go with the E-Mag or the Timmy, and to me the upper hand is the E-Mag if you are willing to sacrifice what I call "fake-speed" (darn thouse bouncy timmiy's ), for a great AGD marker that will never let you down.

[SirTim]

Emag

Personally, I would recommend the Emag over the Timmy or RT Pro, because I own an ULE Emag =) You should able to get one with ULE body and LX from some of the dealers here.

I love my current setup which I wired the hooper to the Emag battery pack, so it's lighter than most gun =)

BTW, did I mention no chops with the LX on the Emag?

[OfficerGoat]

Appropriatly set up eyes are a wonderfull thing. With the timmy you need to make sure your board has enough delay to let the bolt clear the eyes before becoming active again. If this is set right you can rip and not chop anything all day long. Even with the stock eyes and board. If the board isnt setup right you can get chops.... so yes taking the time to get things squared away is important.

[Cliffio]

no anti-chop system will stop 100% of chops


no anti chop system can stop barrel breaks

[BajaBoy]

the eye in my emag, works Perfect... it couldnt work any better. I trust it more then the Lx

for everyone that thinks the ace board is just a waste, its bc you dont have one or never used it right. Bottom Line

[wobbles82]

Yep, Bajaboy has a point, most properly setup eye systems will prevent MOST chopping.

The ACE on an Xmag is like the backup device to the Level Ten, if you chop with this gun you have set something up wrong, with a Revvy choking to catch up I never chopped with plain old Level Ten, its a great combo. Consider the Emag for speed, looks, and weight, its a great marker. As for accuracy, its great believe me, most high end guns properly setup will be more than enough accurate. The kick is not even there.

ALTHOUGH In my opinion, the Timmy (WAS or known to most as an ACE break beam eye) is better. Just because it is compatible with everything, and recognized in a series of guns, a replacement eye is ten bucks. With my Timmy, I can run at 90psi, have the eyes set right, and rip to my hearts content, upside down, sideways, no chops, ever. Crappy paint even, the bolt is LIGHT on paint, but it wont bounce. The only way you can manage to really chop with a Timmy is to disable your eyes, have pressures set wrong, etc. Again, very nice speed, looks, and nice weight, great marker. AS FOR KICK! How is there a lot of kick..I am not biased to any marker and I must say, a STOCK Timmy, that is with no volumizers, stock ram, etc. REALLY has like no kick, its gonna be the same as the Emag in my opinion. Maybe kick may be noticed with a dropforward..I wouldnt know.

RT-Pro, take all of the goods and greats of sans the E-mode of the Emag and Xmag (minus the ACE of course) and you have yourself this marker. Mine was very fast, not walkable, but the trigger pops like no other. If your playing front I would suggest working on your trigger skills though, shooting off of the break with a mech trigger is something to be learned. With a ULT, YOU CAN set this to be walked, but its a very long..aggrivating..broken index finger on desk while yelling at my cat..sort of thing. If you cant come up with the cash for the Emag, this is the gun.

In conclusion: Paint Detection Systems...work. Learn to set it up, and work with it. Level Ten, is like a detection system without all the electro mumbo jumbo, cuz it just lets your chops turn into second chances. Hope that helps.

[FragTek]

Level Ten, is like a detection system without all the electro mumbo jumbo, cuz it just lets your chops turn into second chances.

I like that analogy