04 Timmy

[-=Squid=-]

Sorry, didnt know I had an attitude.

Now, here we go with speed. I said that meaning, even if they are *theoretically* faster, how so can they be? You can hit higher than 24bps on an old timmy, and I dont believe that its possible to physically go much higher. I meant, timmys are already so fast, it doesnt even matter. So the only difference is the frame has been moved up?? oo... Sorry that me stating the fact that I disliked it meant so much to you...wait, you guys freaked out because I didnt like that ugly emag trigger and got me banned, so screw this, im not letting that bs happen again. Later.

[sneakyhacker420]

i just want the vert asa portion of it for my secksy dragon timmy

[Adrenaline_Junkie]

That was a prototype timmy. It was being tested by someone on the Oakland Assasins. I saw a pic of it in face-full. The final look is pretty sweet. I wouldnt mind havin one of those.

[$tevo]

wow, those are beautiful. i was plannin on savin for a viking. but those just look way to nice!

[hostage]

Still interested to see how this timmy is different from my upgraded classic. I am predicting much hype over this. I think the x-mag is more different than the e-mag compared to the new timmy and the old one. I've worked with timmies and a lot of things are hyped up. If you have a few minor upgrades for the classic it preforms just as good as any other.
-Doron

[greendragon]

Hostage is right. I have a classic with some upgrades. I shoot 16bps without trying, And that will all go right on target. I can push it to 19 if I don't need to be too accurate. I would have to say it is not half as good to look at as those new 04 models.
My brothers emag with new programming is shooting just as fast as my upgraded classic, with every bit as much accuracy. All the local tourny players just look at his emag and shake their heads... till he starts unloading on them. Then they want to know what he did to make it so fast and accurate.

[shwerp]

yea, that completely new board that bob designed, the new valve that eliminates the cup seal, new balance cause the trigger frame and feed neck are moved and the fact that you don't need a volumizer are nothing, that price is just for milling........
also the fact that it will probably be one of the lightest guns out there, lighter then all the other timmy's is just some more hype.......
with all this in mind, you are all correct, its the same thing as a tricked out classic......

[ERut]

That looks so friggin CHEAP!

[-=Squid=-]

I KNEW I wasnt the only one...and hostage, interested in selling your timmy ?

[mag-hatter]

Originally posted by JEDI
Which DYE Stickie has no backstrap? Are those custom 2003? Whats up?

oh those are the ones that were custom modified by SCISSORS!

[manike]

Originally posted by -=Squid=-
Well, why dont you tell me whats different? I KNOW they arent faster, and have no different overall design. Wait...was the improvement that you designed them? Again, I got no beef with you or timmys, but still, you as well as I know you wont be able to tell a difference.

I KNOW you are wrong. VERY WRONG!

The 2k4 is faster. It has a lighter hammer and bolt so it can cycle quicker. It also has some changes internally so it can cycle quicker, but I can't divulge some of that stuff yet, but it is stuff that I helped develop.

People that have shot my Empire gun with only some of the changes believe it to be faster than other timmies they have shot so, please tell me how YOU, (and considering I doubt you have shot a 2k4 or Empire) know that you won't be able to tell the difference? I know it is faster because I have a special set of electronics that can measure the cycle time of the gun and so I can see changes caused by different parts.

I've also spoken to many top players in this sport and they all feel it to be a faster, smaller, lighter and BETTER package.

The overall design is also VERY different in many subtle ways. The grip is moved forward and up, making a more compact gun in height and length when held. The feed neck is moved back to get the weight balance back and make the gun shorter.

It has a new valve set up and changed ports/flow characteristics.

It has a new bolt.

The front reg chamber is higher volume with better flow characteristics to prevent any degridation in performance at high rates of fire, but in a smaller package than previous intimidators.

It has a new ram and ram cap set up so that you don't get performance losses due to worn ram bumpers.

It has a new board with LCD in the grip and tactile buttons in the back of the grip.

Right now I'm trying to think of what hasn't been changed...

Now when it comes to the X-mag I can appreciate it looks like there is more difference between it and the E-mag in comparison but having been involved in both projects I would have to say there is more changed in the timmy in this instance than there was with the X-mag. The X-mag got a new body and an eye system, but that was essentially it. The valve and grip frame and operational parts didn't change (level 10 wasn't available until later). It also (at a later date) got a new battery milling and software, but not when the X-mag first came out (other than the software to be able to use the eye).

[SlartyBartFast]

You're starting to sound like WAS

Originally posted by manike

I KNOW you are wrong. VERY WRONG!
The 2k4 is faster. It has a lighter hammer and bolt so it can cycle quicker.
...
People that have shot my Empire gun with only some of the changes believe it to be faster than other timmies they have shot

Sorry to say it but you're sounding a lot like WAS. Feeling, believing, thinking, all notions that don't replace PROOF and DATA.

Not what I'd expect from the guy that was quick to call WAS on his unbacked and hyped claims. Also not what I'd expect from the guy with "Don't believe the hype." in his sig.

Wasn't one of the recurring themes in WAS threads the fact he had "special electronics" that nobody else ever seemed to have access to and whic provided data that couldn't be shared?

I'm sure plenty of people will buy it however. The ugly truth is there are far more boy racers in paintball looking to prove their manhood with shiney chrome and loud exhausts than there are people who recognize that they could play more ball instead of replacing perfectly adequate equipment with shinier stuff that will do nothing to help them improve their game.

[Load SM5]

I just want to know what of those internal goodies I can transfer to my 2k2

Trust me, I shot his Empire at SC and that thing was the fastest gun I've ever shot.


By the way my Timmy sings Manike. Thanks for the look over, advice and low rise. Well worth the long trip to Atlanta. That and watching airport security almost tackle you.

[Load SM5]

Re: You're starting to sound like WAS

Originally posted by SlartyBartFast



Sorry to say it but you're sounding a lot like WAS. Feeling, believing, thinking, all notions that don't replace PROOF and DATA.

Not what I'd expect from the guy that was quick to call WAS on his unbacked and hyped claims. Also not what I'd expect from the guy with "Don't believe the hype." in his sig.

Wasn't one of the recurring themes in WAS threads the fact he had "special electronics" that nobody else ever seemed to have access to and whic provided data that couldn't be shared?

Whoa Bro. You have no need to go there. Insulting a very respected member of this community, by comparing him with a snake-oil salesman like Jim Drew, will get you no where here, fast.

Simon's gun is a prototype. He does have special software that you can't get, because it's a diagnostic tool to work the bugs and kinks out. Sorry if that bothers you but it's true. And he can't devulge everything, mostly becasue NAtional does'nt want him too. His job is more important than making sure your doubts are completely satisfied.

[Ripper machinist]

What hasnt been changed.

Right now I'm trying to think of what hasn't been changed...

Well the bolt pin was not changed, 8)

Jim