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  • spantol
    Turgid Member
    • Sep 2002
    • 1024

    #16
    Sorry to respond so reasonably, then.

    You raise a good point, that offline awareness. I think a discussion of how to raise that awareness is warrented, in a new thread. Maybe in the morning...
    Last edited by spantol; 12-22-2003, 02:18 PM.

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    • Matt_mg
      Registered User
      • Jun 2003
      • 198

      #17
      I'm ready to put a 50 and spread it to more "local" forums once it's set up
      bla bla bla, does anyone read this anyway ?

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      • SuiciDal Sn Y p ER
        Registered User
        • Apr 2003
        • 3814

        #18
        i will contribute. i'm not sure how much at this moment but i'll get some friends to chip in
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        • adam shannon
          Registered User
          • Oct 2002
          • 805

          #19
          i hate to be the downer here, actualy im a realist and do like pointing out the BS in the world. most people, no offense, who jump on a hot button issue and pledge this or that are cooled down 5 minutes after they hit the post button and never follow thru. why do you think telethons ask for credit cards now instead of just the "pledge" of you sending a check next week after youve forgotten about all those poor little crippled kids.
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          • painball
            Scumbag
            • Dec 2002
            • 921

            #20
            $25 right here

            EDIT: I feel guilty with all these high donations
            Last edited by painball; 12-22-2003, 01:29 AM.

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            • heftylefty
              crazy asian
              • Jan 2003
              • 518

              #21
              what an unpleasant gift from SP to AKA. they sure know how to ruin the christmas spirit.
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              • sps16
                Now With Sprinkles
                • May 2003
                • 1558

                #22
                Thats cool how you guys can stand by a company like this, i would donate but im poor

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                • darwin
                  Texas Ranger
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 233

                  #23
                  Originally posted by adam shannon
                  im saving my $ till they go after AGD...probably right after wgp and wdp.
                  yeh

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                  • shartley
                    paintball player
                    • Mar 2001
                    • 9169

                    #24
                    Originally posted by adam shannon
                    it will never go to trial. its too costly. aka will cave then sp will sue the next on the list. nobody ( average pb players ) took it seriously when they started with icd...everybody talked smack and put funny sp nazi gifs in their sigs, but nobody did anything...then after the settlement with icd everything went back to normal...till now.

                    the whole community needed to band together a year ago, but PB is to fractured as it is. most manufacturers seem to be holding their breath while glad that sp is hitting their competition too.

                    if it would have been everybody against sp it would have been over already. the bandwagon has pulled away and all thats left is hot air. a $10 donation wont even cover what a lawyer charges to lick a stamp. and $100,000 would just be the retainer.
                    Originally posted by adam shannon
                    the worst thing about this is the average player who doesnt go to message boards really has no idea this is all going on. of the dozens of kids who were sporting sp hats/etc at my field none of them even knew what was going on behind the scenes. nobody who isnt on the boards knows whats going on. the same couple hundred people who are posting about it arent going to do anything...the truth needs to get out.
                    And that is a huge problem with online communities, they THINK they make up the majority of players, when they do not. As with anything started on internet forums, it goes NOWHERE if it stays on the internet forums. To enact change, people have to get from behind their computers and DO something.
                    Originally posted by adam shannon
                    and while im on a rant...and my background is internet sales, and i ran a message board for my product...anyways only about 1% of people who jump on a bandwagon will actually do anything reguardless of what they post. ask tom why he had thousands of roller triggers made then only sold a couple dozen!

                    because talk is just that talk!
                    You hit a very large nail on its colossal head. It makes coming out with new products hit or miss if you only factor in what folks say online.

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                    • epterry
                      CPPA #1152
                      • Dec 2001
                      • 282

                      #25
                      Man I hope some one from sp reads these threads. Just to think we are giving money to their competition not buying stuff from their competition but giving them money.

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                      • Sir_Brass
                        I love mechs!
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 736

                        #26
                        they won't care. they're like M$: too much $$ to ever give a hoot about any one consumer or small group of consumers.

                        That needs to be done is to get the field owners against SP. They're the ones who will enact change. ALl the influential players can usually be influenced just by what their local field owner says. If the field owner is anti-sp for what they're doing, then his regular contingent will become anti-sp or at least not buy sp except if it's absolutely necessary. That will then spread to the new players and first timers.

                        People, get your local field owners AGAINST SP. Educate them if they don't know what's going on. If we're going to create opposition to SP, then we need to get the people who are most influential in the industry to be against SP, and those people are the field owners.
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                        • thei3ug
                          Canicus
                          • Oct 2000
                          • 846

                          #27
                          as much as i admire AKA, and hoosier pride and all.... I have to question a charity for a corporate body.

                          Especially when I see my own employer struggling. I would rather receive a receipt for a loan than donate, to be paid within a certain time of completion of the lawsuit.

                          Sorry, There are people who need money more than what amounts to a luxury sports equipment manufacturer. i've been unemployed for 3 months... just got a job. I don't think it'd be right to just start giving money away.
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                          • gtrsi
                            Automag?
                            • Dec 2001
                            • 5786

                            #28
                            Originally posted by thei3ug
                            Especially when I see my own employer struggling. I would rather receive a receipt for a loan than donate, to be paid within a certain time of completion of the lawsuit.
                            Agreed!,
                            Now if AKA or AGD want to share ownership via stocks but since neither are a publicly held company and I have little buisness sence I will let you guys continue with my idea.
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                            • spantol
                              Turgid Member
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 1024

                              #29
                              From AuctionJunkie!, in the AKA Forum at PBNation:

                              I spoke with Larry and he confirmed that any and all money donated will only be used in defense of the lawsuit by Smart Parts.
                              Donations can be made via paypal to [email protected]

                              We are still setting up the Trust Fund Account for those who want to mail a check. As soon as that is completed I will post the details.
                              Thanks everyone,
                              Dan
                              Last edited by spantol; 12-22-2003, 02:18 PM.

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                              • Hexis
                                Green Mag Freak
                                • Sep 2001
                                • 2427

                                #30
                                Originally posted by thei3ug
                                as much as i admire AKA, and hoosier pride and all.... I have to question a charity for a corporate body.
                                Valid points. However, think of it as a donation to help set a precident against SP's very questionable patent. It doesn't matter who it goes to, just the first group that's willing to fight it and not cave in. If that's AKA, then more power to them, and if you feel you can help, do it. If you can't, don't.

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