Style over Substance

[krafty]

I briefly got caught up in the 'latest and greatest' trend and bought a spanking new Bushmaster. Big mistake. I'm now beginning the process of selling it and going old-skool (if the new RT Pro custom could be considered old) and heading back to mech guns.

And all my guns are (or will be) single-colored and non-flashy. Basic black is SOOOO sexy...

[Albinonewt]

Yeah, I'm all for Style in addition to substance. I may even sacrafice a little substance for a LOT of style. (say the gun was slightly unfomfortable in the front grip but was so slick looking and original that everyone had to take notice). But overall I tend to think you can accomplish both. It's not like a cool anno job detracts from the substance any.

[tony3]

Originally posted by krafty
I briefly got caught up in the 'latest and greatest' trend and bought a spanking new Bushmaster. Big mistake. I'm now beginning the process of selling it and going old-skool (if the new RT Pro custom could be considered old) and heading back to mech guns.

And all my guns are (or will be) single-colored and non-flashy. Basic black is SOOOO sexy...

Sorry buddy, bushies aren't the "latest and greatest". You guys are totally brainwashed by agd.

[shartley]

Re: Substance over style any day, but still, looking good never hurt either

Originally posted by Sir_Brass
Substance over style, but if I can get style after putting the most substance into the gun, then I'll go for some style as well. Case in point: I'm thinking about emailing SHartley and talking about some full wrap around wood grips (covering both front and back of the grip frame) for the sniper. THough this has substance in and of itself as well: namely, keeping my hands from freezing. The gripframe nearly froze my hand, what with it being metal and my palm being in contact with it most of the day in sub freezing weather. Full wrap arounds will provide some insulation against the cold. STill, they look great as well, and that's another reason I'd like them .

Thanks. I look forward to helping.

[Tyger]

Few thigns to hit :

Tony3 : I could have brought up the simpe elegance of the Icon Z too, but that's old school. Tippman's guns aren't elegant, as much as they just work. AGD's guns are elegant in their base simplicty, and they work. So are CCI Phantoms too. We happen to be on the AGD forum, I'm using AGD becasue we all can understand what I'm talking about.

And I do like AGD's style.

Sir Brass : Some people need a "hard lesson" that you don't need flash to be a good player. Charley's got a bunch f paitball patches. "Paintball Lesson, 5 cents" But that's the mentality I'm talking about. Buy stuff not because it wil help your performance, buy it becuae it's flashy. Paintball seems to be filled with either magpies or raccoon. "OOOOOO!!!! SHINY THING!!!!!"

Furb : We've been over this before. If I could "whip it out" and mark someone at 200 feet, I wouldn't NEED a paintgun. **UNF**

Tryon : It's not about bing criical of AGD, it's more about the players here. If it's shiny, it's gotta be better than the stock version! I really have considered buying a slggo body, and leaving it chunky. Just to do it. Prove a point.

I don't know. It just disheartens me when I hear kids tell me "I want an (Insert gun here)" and they have no idea WHY they want this gun, other than "It costs more, so it's gotta be better." I also get a litle shakey when I hear players talking about "absolutely needing" a barrel from "Company X" so it wll complete "THE LOOK" of a gun. "Function follows form, they say, or have I got that wrong?"

You can have Substance that is stylish, yes. But too often I see people buying eye-candy, and wasting money on it. I'm old school, true. Gimme a so-called "Ugly Gun" that shoots laser beams, and I don't care if oyu think it's a warthog. Call it names in the dead box all you want. I won't mind.

-Tyger

[Furby]

Tyger, if you could whip it out and mark someone from 200 feet away, you wouldn't be a paintball writer...you'd be a porn star!

[FutureMagOwner]

lol

me likes my emag its got style and that other thing you guys were talking about...

my gz timmy has uhhhhhh no style and barely any substance id hate it if i didnt pay 75 bucks and the worlds worst gun in existance (an impulse ) for it.


then i got my trusty/ rusty sl-68 II gets more use then my friggen timmy lol.


tony i have a timmy and i have an emag, my emag absolutely blows the timmy out of the water in every regard its the best damn gun i have ever used and probably ever will use PERIOD!

[Sir_Brass]

Gimme a so-called "Ugly Gun" that shoots laser beams, and I don't care if oyu think it's a warthog.

mmmm, Warthog . I'm thinking of the A-10 right now. Beautiful plane . They call her ugly, but with that chain gun in the nose that can bust tanks like it was none of it's business, well, that takes all the ugly right out of her . That, added to the fact that you don't hear an A-10 till she's right on top of you . Heh heh.

Sort of like my blazer: doens't have the best curves by a long shot, but it's still deadly .

[03vert]

if its a beast preformer then it doesnt matter if it looks like your shooting what looks like a trash can that has one too many collisions with the neigbor's blazer. cough cough

[tony3]

Originally posted by Tyger
Few thigns to hit :

Tony3 : I could have brought up the simpe elegance of the Icon Z too, but that's old school. Tippman's guns aren't elegant, as much as they just work. AGD's guns are elegant in their base simplicty, and they work. So are CCI Phantoms too. We happen to be on the AGD forum, I'm using AGD becasue we all can understand what I'm talking about.

I don't know if I'm missing your point or if you are missing mine. You are complaining that players are taking pretty guns over true preforming guns. You "claim" yourself as "oldschool", but really, how many guns back in '92 were there with top of the line cnc milling and custom reverse acid wash dust fades? Guess what? Nowadays you can get good looking and preforming guns in 1 package. Amazing huh?

[xXHavokXx]

See that's why i shoot an angel. Beautiful looking gun that lays massive ropes of paint accurately.

[Tyger]

Originally posted by tony3

You are complaining that players are taking pretty guns over true preforming guns. You "claim" yourself as "oldschool", but really, how many guns back in '92 were there with top of the line cnc milling and custom reverse acid wash dust fades? Guess what? Nowadays you can get good looking and preforming guns in 1 package. Amazing huh?

Sarcasm aside. At the risk of sounding like one of those old guys on the porch with a rocking chair...

In '92, guns were made to perform. Look at the 'Mag. It has, basically, remained the same over the years. Ok, so it' sbeen improved, but nothing cosmetically. I can take a '91 Mag and an '03 Mag, put them side by side, and they look similar.

The main guns in '92 weren't really made for looks. Arguably, the VM-68 / PMI-3 was made with a weird kinda 'anno' job, but it was made to be a freaking workhorse. The Icon Z, the Illustrator, Vector, All made to perform.

Now you could get an Icon in colors. I couldget a Rebel pump in colors. I think TASO made a camo-anno gun too. And you saw them occasinally. You also had companies that made worthless mods (Magic Box) for guns, but it wasn't for asthetics, it was performance promises that, for the most part, didn't work or was 60% hype.

Now you get a gun to match your team's color scheme for the year. But I see more players buying thngs to mod their guns out that are, at best, frivolous and at worst, decrease the performance of their gear. And why? It looks cool. It's sexy. It's the "Mod of the Month".

Hey, if you get something that's high-end performance, and it works, cool. I just see too many people who can't leave a working machine well enough alone and muck it up by adding something tha's all "bling" and no "work".

That's the point. Style over Substance rules the game, becasue the prevailing winds come down to "it's better to look cool in the lot."

It's kinda like "Chuff Chuff", but more directly aimed.

-Tyger

[Sir_Brass]

at the risk of sounding ignorant, will someone explain this whole "chuff chuff" thing to me?

[Tyger]

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=93751

From Tom himself.

-Tyg

[.tMan]

Dangit Tyger, you beat me to it
Do you ever sleep man!?