Is this supposed to be cool or something?

[shartley]

Originally posted by cockermongol
Bouncers are a big issue. I would rather have a 350 lb back guy who takes 10 bouncers a game than a 160 lb back guy who is going to get out on the first shot. And you don't have to be fast to play back...

As for image, when people see that all the back guys are big and all the front guys are small it will show the world that we actually ARE a real sport. You won't see a 150 lb lineman on the Carolina panthers, and there shouldn't be any skin-and-bone guys playing back. It will show that we have developed into a sport where little things like excess body fat can be used strategically.

[shartley]

Originally posted by rx2
Yes, the substance is myelin. It is formed in sheathes by a unnucleated cell known as a Schwan's cell, which rolls up around your nerve's axons, thus insulating them. This allows impulses to travel along the more quickly, with less chance of error. So, your brain contains a lot of fat, but it isn't really the "working" parts.

And Shartley, there has been some speculation (although it is difficult to determine without very long-term studies) that not allowing an intake in certain fats (i.e. fat free diets) can actually cause depletion of the myelin over long periods of time, which may lead to degenerative disorders such as CP, and Parkinson's, if I can remember correctly. Another reason to eat fish and olive oil!

[rx2]

You have grossly missed my point. I was
A. Helping clear up Sir-Brass's statement
B. Telling you of a diet that could reduce brain fat, considering you stated that you have never heard of one.

I am not saying people shouldn't loose weight, or that fat paintball players are just a fit as any others. You stated that there is not diet that could cause the mentioned effects, but some researchers who actually study in the field of nutrition and physiology say there is. Also, I know of many people who cut out fats all together in an attempt to loose weight. Most loose very little, as we don't convert fat to more fat the way most people think.

Also, most doctors know very little about real nutrition. I have seen much of the curriculum in medical schools, and surprisingly little is covered concerning nutrition. Actually, some of the things I hear doctors say amaze me, although it shouldn't considering pharmaceutical kick-backs.

ANYHOW, I actually agree with your statements. Being in shape (when done properly) IS good, and CAN help your game, as well as lots of other things.

[cockermongol]

Originally posted by shartley

And I think fat guys are better back players than skinny guys.

[rx2]

I should also state that I also strongly agree that the average person, who knows nothing about paintball, would most likely get the wrong impression about the sport when they see fat twelve-year old kids playing at a "pro" level. In fact, I have had people tell me this. Or, they will ask "how can it be a sport with so many fat people playing?" I have gotten that question quite a few times. So, even without considering the actual physical aspect, it does give some naieve people the wrong impression.

[shartley]

Originally posted by rx2
You have grossly missed my point. I was
A. Helping clear up Sir-Brass's statement
B. Telling you of a diet that could reduce brain fat, considering you stated that you have never heard of one.

I am not saying people shouldn't loose weight, or that fat paintball players are just a fit as any others. You stated that there is not diet that could cause the mentioned effects, but some researchers who actually study in the field of nutrition and physiology say there is. Also, I know of many people who cut out fats all together in an attempt to loose weight. Most loose very little, as we don't convert fat to more fat the way most people think.

Also, most doctors know very little about real nutrition. I have seen much of the curriculum in medical schools, and surprisingly little is covered concerning nutrition. Actually, some of the things I hear doctors say amaze me, although it shouldn't considering pharmaceutical kick-backs.

ANYHOW, I actually agree with your statements. Being in shape (when done properly) IS good, and CAN help your game, as well as lots of other things.

[shartley]

Originally posted by cockermongol

And I think fat guys are better back players than skinny guys.

[shartley]

Originally posted by rx2
I should also state that I also strongly agree that the average person, who knows nothing about paintball, would most likely get the wrong impression about the sport when they see fat twelve-year old kids playing at a "pro" level. In fact, I have had people tell me this. Or, they will ask "how can it be a sport with so many fat people playing?" I have gotten that question quite a few times. So, even without considering the actual physical aspect, it does give some naieve people the wrong impression.

[cockermongol]

If you are a back player and are "physically fit", then I argue that if you put on another 100 lbs of fat it would not affect your game. At all. That's what I'm saying.

[Beemer]

What was this thread about again

No its not COOL Ov3rmind

Originally posted by Ov3rmind
Because at that level they have an obligation to follow the rules, especially when they're being watched by so many people. That and anyone who encourages this sort of behavior is bad for paintball in general, and I don't want to feel those effects.

goggles up = condoms on.
it ain't hard. And its not about worrying about yourself only, if that kid shoots ME in the eye because he don't have a barrel condom on, is that my fault Mindflux?

Like car insurance. Its like you going out now and saying
"hey its ok, I have never crashed.....why should I get insurance?"

its the others i worry about, and goggles are a must.

Very true. Very true.
Though, I would like to tell you about the hunting safety calss that I went through when I was a bit younger. One of the instructors picked up a .22 bolt action rifle. He showed us a .22 round, and put it in the chamber then closed the bolt. Then, he put the safety in the ON position. He then picked up a hammer and said, "This is a rock." tapper the end of the bolt with the hammer and the gun went off.
Well, I do agree that the use of mechcanical safeties or turning the marker off is important, but on the same token, would you bet an eye that those are totally 100% beyond all reproach effective? I would not. You can never be too safe around projectile weapons.
Aside form the obivious safety hazards, it does set a bad example for younger players (and some older ones). They see a bunch of guys looking "cool" and at the same time breaking safety protocals. Then it's just a case of monkey see, moneky do.
And, if that is the kind of safety lapses that his dad allows to go on at his park, then well... I think some one needs to report it to the proper autorities. How is it going to look when a marker goes off the next time they are trying to look something akin to paintballs answer to the backstreet boys or n'sync and someone near by goes blind from a few accidently discharged paintballs from a cool, gangster player? I'd rather not think of the explaination the he would have to make to the insurance company. ("Well, he tought that it would be a cool photo op...")

So many rants, so little time...
Breg



Like I really wanna be around some of you with real fire arms. Accidents dont happen they are caused.

I got ur back Tyger lets go set some examples

The thread started out good then went south

[shartley]

Originally posted by cockermongol
If you are a back player and are "physically fit", then I argue that if you put on another 100 lbs of fat it would not affect your game. At all. That's what I'm saying.

[rx2]

Well, I don't care what others think about paintball, either. People also call me a gun nut, and think I am in a militia because I own and operate many different firearms, for purely recreation purpouses (I don't even hunt). But, I keep on shooting.

And to cockermongol, a fit person with a few extra pounds is different that an unfit person who has never been thin. I went to a school that had a legacy of football championships, and there were many large men who could outrun me in a most humiliating fasion. But, they had a very strong athletic background, with lots of cross-training. Whilst many like to blame other factors, many people are overweight because they are out of shape, and do nothing to change this. It is these types if sedentary folks that could benefit from being in shape. It is easier on your joints, your heart, your lungs, and, becuase you generally play better when you feel better, it affects your game. But, yes, a backplayer who was very fit could probably put on 20 or more pounds and not notice (although 100 may be a bit extreme).

[shartley]

Originally posted by rx2
Well, I don't care what others think about paintball, either. People also call me a gun nut, and think I am in a militia because I own and operate many different firearms, for purely recreation purpouses (I don't even hunt). But, I keep on shooting.

[cockermongol]

Originally posted by shartley

Simply untrue. Because back players require no physical attributes besides a fast trigger finger, they could weigh 500 lbs and it would not take any affect on their game.

Maybe YOU should re-read what I said - I never said fat guys were the best all around players (which seems to be what you're implying by saying losing weight would help your "game"), but instead my entire argument is on the basis that any fat person could perform the back player position as good or better than that of a slim person.

Back to my original statement about bouncers, example: George is an excellent skinny back player, then puts on 100 lbs. Does he lose back player skill? No! Absolutely not! What I'm saying (and don't say I'm not saying it cause that's what I'm saying ) is the player, George in this case, would not only play his position just as well, but maybe even better because of the fat tit bounce factor. If a soft plastic mask can make bouncers possible, then a 3-inch layer of jell-o all around your body will greatly increase bouncers as well.



By the way.. did anyone see the Rams vs Panthers game? (good stuff)

[rx2]

Originally posted by shartley

Hard to argue with that