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  • Kevmaster
    Owners Group Div: Director
    • Oct 2001
    • 5475

    #1

    Gosh Durn idiot Teens!

    By OREN DORELL, Staff Writer


    GARNER -- Garner police Chief Tom Moss said his staff will consider
    whether to recommend banning the firing of paintball guns within town
    limits, after a recent incident in which a boy was partially blinded in
    a drive-by paintball shooting.
    Garner investigators are also looking into filing additional charges
    against some of the same teens already charged with injuring Chris
    Estes, 12, of Raleigh, who was shot in the eye Jan. 5 in Wake County,
    said Garner police Officer Jon Blum, the department spokesman.

    Four teens were arrested and charged with assault with a deadly weapon
    inflicting serious injury. Arrested were John Lemons, 16, of ------------- Lane; Christopher Robert Tracy, 16, of ------ Road; and Adam
    Bennette Nelson, 17, of --------- Road, all of Raleigh; and
    Garner resident Kyle David Lindbergh, 16, of -------- Way.

    The N.C. Crimes guidebook published by the UNC-Chapel Hill Institute of
    Government identifies a deadly weapon as "any instrument that under the
    circumstances of that use is likely to cause death or serious bodily
    injury."

    Blum said the paintball spree apparently began in Garner.

    The first known shots occurred about 1 p.m. behind Winn-Dixie at ------------- Blvd., where Julio Vargas of ------------- Ave. in Raleigh
    was looking through a Dumpster, Blum said. Vargas "heard three shots
    from a paintgun and felt something hot hit him on the leg," Blum said.
    Vargas wasn't seriously injured.

    About 5:30 p.m., three more paintballs slammed into a window at
    Chick-fil-A at ------------- Drive, according to police reports. The paint
    washed off and caused no permanent damage. Someone inside Chick-fil-A
    recognized the vehicle and helped police identify the driver.

    "This kid [the driver] basically admits that the balls were shot from
    his car. He didn't know who actually shot it," Blum said. "Actually the
    guy in the back seat did. He gave some names of other people who were
    actually in the vehicle."

    One of the suspects admitted to shooting -------, Blum said.

    Maj. T.S. Matthews of the Wake County Sheriff's Office said
    investigators are also looking into whether there is a connection
    between the incidents Jan. 5 and one that occurred a day earlier on the
    ----- block of --------- Road. Melissa R. Carroll, 29, of -------- Court in Raleigh was bicycling with her husband and two other
    people when a paintball shot from a moving sedan hit her in the arm.

    Raleigh police have handled six paintball assaults in 2003, police
    spokesman Jim Sughrue said. Four of the six involved unknown attackers,
    Sughrue said.

    Raleigh and Chapel Hill prohibit discharging paintball guns within city
    limits. Several other towns in Wake County do not.

    Sgt. Dan Ennis of the Morrisville Police Department, where paintball is
    not banned, called paintball "a new problem."

    When the devices were first introduced, they didn't have much power,
    Ennis said. Most now shoot with velocities approaching 300 feet per
    second, however, "and that will hurt you," Ennis said.

    In Garner, the ordinance banning the discharge of firearms covers BB
    guns, pellet guns and other air-powered devices that fire a metal
    projectile. But that excludes paintballs.

    Matthews said that politicians will decide but that he doesn't think new
    ordinances are necessary.

    "We have the necessary statutes to deal with these problems," he said.
    "Law enforcement is not going to be able to replace a parent's
    responsibility for teaching their children good judgment."


    Staff writer Oren Dorell can be reached at 829-8963 or
    [email protected].

    link: http://newsobserver.com/news/triangl...-2886384c.html

    Note: addresses have been blocked, however the article lists them :/
  • Crighton
    Registered User
    • Apr 2003
    • 535

    #2
    Wouldn't hurt a thing as long as they placed some type of exception in the law that stated except at specific permitted or licensed areas. Thus allowing PB fields to operate inside of the city limit.

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    • -=Squid=-

      #3
      I hate teenagers, and am embarrassed to be one.

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      • Kevmaster
        Owners Group Div: Director
        • Oct 2001
        • 5475

        #4
        i dont think they have that in mind....

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        • Jonesie
          All Around Good Guy
          • Oct 2002
          • 1123

          #5
          Hey Kev,
          I'm really sorry to see that you protected the "innocent" by blanking out the streets. I'd love to see the PB community come together to scare the boys straight!
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          • hitech
            Not a shedder of vortices
            • Nov 2001
            • 4775

            #6
            Re: Gosh Durn idiot Teens!

            Originally posted by Kevmaster
            "We have the necessary statutes to deal with these problems," he said.
            "Law enforcement is not going to be able to replace a parent's responsibility for teaching their children good judgment."

            Times ARE changing. There is hope yet.


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            • Muzikman
              Everything AGD
              • Dec 2000
              • 6229

              #7
              I find it odd that they think passing a law banning the firing of paintball guns would solve this problem. The only thing it would do is just give them one more thing to chage people with, but it's not going to stop idiots from doing stuff like this.

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              • Vendetta
                Nothing witty to say.
                • Sep 2002
                • 702

                #8
                Take the cows out of the feeder lots and put teenagers in them instead

                They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
                Benjamin Franklin

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                • PBCapo
                  Mech & Aero Eng. Student
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 1198

                  #9
                  hey not fair to accuse all teenagers of being retarded. Is it iven true that when markers were first introduced they didnt go 300fps? I thought splatmasters were set to go 300..?
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                  • fallout11

                    #10
                    Originally posted by PBCapo
                    Is it iven true that when markers were first introduced they didnt go 300fps? I thought splatmasters were set to go 300..?

                    Old paintball guns didn't have adjustable velocities. Their FPS was fixed, generally intrinsic to their design.
                    Most tended to be around 250 fps. That is a generalization.

                    My old Splatmaster Rapide shot 245 fps with the first shot on a 12-gram, and fell off from there.

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                    • Hexis
                      Green Mag Freak
                      • Sep 2001
                      • 2427

                      #11
                      300fps has been avalible on standard markers for over 10 years. It's not like it's a recent thing, or that the speed is increasing, as they kind of suggest in the article.

                      Sounds like the police are forgetting their role. They are empowered to enforce the law, not create new ones.

                      It also sounds like they have a prefectly good law on the books to cover such incidents.

                      It's unfortunate that some teenagers are stupid. It is however reality. In the context of such an incident, banning one device that somone can be stupid with isn't going to accomplish much. When going on a cluevoid rampage it's only going to cause another rule or law to be broken, not cut down on the cluevoid rampages.
                      Last edited by Hexis; 01-14-2004, 02:35 PM.

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                      • phantomhitman
                        ao's official bad guy
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 1841

                        #12
                        a guy at work told me about this today. he also told me about the girl in colorado.

                        kev, where do you play at? I am looking for some good fields in our area.
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                        • cris8762
                          Village Idiot
                          • Jun 2002
                          • 1763

                          #13
                          kev hasnt played in forever, lol

                          some sport named "basketball" is more important to him

                          you should come play at Black River paintball on sunday!

                          i'll be out there for team practice in the morning then rec in the afternoon

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                          • the_next_guy_
                            official ao member #10261
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 429

                            #14
                            Originally posted by -=Squid=-
                            I hate teenagers, and am embarrassed to be one.
                            I feel the same way at times like this.

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                            • Automaggin2
                              Registered User
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 2506

                              #15
                              I thought it was illegal to release the names of suspects under the age of 18
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