Newer Software??? 4.0???

[Rope a Dope]

So... Tom pulled the trigger 26 times in one second as you all say he did?

Well, damn.

[jwren00]

I'm not flaming, just stating the FACT that the gun shoots faster than you are pulling the trigger...

[MrWallen]

I think there may be a bit of an issue with the BPS counter, from what I saw. When messing around without gas, I could hit around 22 bps. Crazy, thought I. (and yes, I had plenty of time with the board, Miscue stayed in my freakin room!)

Well it seems, again from what I saw, that even though it read 22 bps and even if you pulled it 22 bps, you weren't actually firing 22 bps. But this was on my friend's emag, which was a little messed up, and low on air.

BTW, if anyone ever gets the chance, get someone's emag and get it flashed, then put a really embaressing message on the startup (or lowbat). Bwhahahahahaa!

Just ask ZAust what I'm talking about...!

[Miscue]

Originally posted by MrWallen
I think there may be a bit of an issue with the BPS counter, from what I saw. When messing around without gas, I could hit around 22 bps. Crazy, thought I. (and yes, I had plenty of time with the board, Miscue stayed in my freakin room!)

Well it seems, again from what I saw, that even though it read 22 bps and even if you pulled it 22 bps, you weren't actually firing 22 bps. But this was on my friend's emag, which was a little messed up, and low on air.

BTW, if anyone ever gets the chance, get someone's emag and get it flashed, then put a really embaressing message on the startup (or lowbat). Bwhahahahahaa!

Just ask ZAust what I'm talking about...!

It won't hang at 20bps without a good tank with sufficient air because the solenoid will not be properly reset. The BPS meter will be inaccurate if the marker does not shoot when it is told to by the board. The solenoid plunger stutters at 20+, we're looking into it. Suggest to keep at 20bps for now.

[MrWallen]

Originally posted by Miscue


It won't hang at 20bps without a good tank with sufficient air because the solenoid will not be properly reset. The BPS meter will be inaccurate if the marker does not shoot when it is told to by the board. The solenoid plunger stutters at 20+, we're looking into it. Suggest to keep at 20bps for now.

Yeah, I heard you and Tom talking about that (looking into it, that is). And it does stutter above 20 bps, so it actually shoots faster/more consistently at higher rates if you set RoF to 20.

[Evil1]

I saw in a post up top that the gun could not keep up w/ 26 bps. By that do they mean the actual gun or the tank is not keeping up? Not that I am overly concerned w/ raw speed, but is that only what the RT valve can do is 26 bps? I think I've seen one dry fired before way faster than 26bps. Also is this software really worth waiting for? I recently got the 3.2 recently and I like it. Also I'm thinking on buying a DM4 soon but want to actually shoot and play w/ one before purchasing one. Can this new software on the E/XMag be compared to shooting like the DM4 or is the DM4 just that sick and in a league of its own?


P.S.
I am not replacing my Emag w/ a DM4. I love my mag, always will, but after seeing the DM4 alot now it has begun to grow on me. Also it will be cool to have 3 awesome guns to choose from when I play.

[USAF-Flyboy with a Mag]

From what Tom told me at the meet, it's not that the valve can't sustain that rate, but the actual plunger on the emag is the issue due to its weight. It can't cycle that fast. One this is for certain, my gun is shooting plenty fast enough that it isn't a concern with me. I burned through a halo B in a matter of seconds. Also, some of the preset tanks just can't keep up with the gun when you are going full bore at it. Luckily my preset was the only one that we came across at the meet that could.

[Crime Dog]

I've been reading this thread for awhile now, wondering to myself, "Should I tell Tunaman to see if he can get the 4.0 for me?"

And I've decided to stick with the 3.2. Sounds like I won't have that many problems, and I should be able to shoot fast ENOUGH with it.

If you can't hit someone with 14 bps...you're stink at the game, and need to relearn.

I mean, come on guys, is hitting 26 bps really THAT important? Is it really going to help one's game that much?

I understand, 4.0 is "cleaner code". I don't have a problem with that. If that's the sole reason people were psyched about it, then hey, more power to ya.

But it seems people have this addiction to higher bps. Higher bps isn't the answer to your game. At least, I hope it's not. That doesn't make us better players. It just makes paint companies richer.

This ISN'T a flame. Just the conclusion I've come to. Somethin' to chew on I guess.

Miscue, I mean NO offense to you for coming up with the software. If someone can come up with more efficient, better designed code, then MORE power to them! I'm sure your intent isn't solely a higher ROF. For that, I commend ya. You're just trying to improve on efficiency. Nothin' wrong with that in the least.

[PsychoBaller]

Heh, many peoples are still running older software.. its not about how fast you can shoot anymore, I think its rather about who has the newest, cleanest, bug free software...

I had my SFL flashed at NJAO3 day, 2.4 still, but runs just fine.

-baller

[darwin]

i cant wait to get my hands on this.. Is there any reference avail to the public for writing software for the chip in the e/x mag? What do you write it in? and can i get an xmag with a bash prompt ?

[homis]

A little off topic, but to the developer of this software (Miscue I believe), what language do you write this in?

/C++ & MFC developer myself

[CFD323]

Somebody said that most of the preset tanks there wouldn't keep up with the 4.0. So if you have an adjustable tank, do you dial up the incoming pressure to the gun higher so that the gun doesn't starve at high rates of fire ? Doesn't this make the gun less air efficient ?

Does this hold true for all high speed electro guns using preset tanks because I had checked a while back about using a preset tank with a NYX Matrix and was told it work fine.

[Mindflux]

Originally posted by homis
A little off topic, but to the developer of this software (Miscue I believe), what language do you write this in?

/C++ developer myself

It was written in assembly.

ASM baby!

[Dayspring]

In the tournament scene, it's all about who can shoot the fastest, and who can reach those high ROF #'s the easiest.

What Miscue has done has provided AGD a means to do that.

Originally posted by Crime Dog
I've been reading this thread for awhile now, wondering to myself, "Should I tell Tunaman to see if he can get the 4.0 for me?"

And I've decided to stick with the 3.2. Sounds like I won't have that many problems, and I should be able to shoot fast ENOUGH with it.

If you can't hit someone with 14 bps...you're stink at the game, and need to relearn.

I mean, come on guys, is hitting 26 bps really THAT important? Is it really going to help one's game that much?

I understand, 4.0 is "cleaner code". I don't have a problem with that. If that's the sole reason people were psyched about it, then hey, more power to ya.

But it seems people have this addiction to higher bps. Higher bps isn't the answer to your game. At least, I hope it's not. That doesn't make us better players. It just makes paint companies richer.

This ISN'T a flame. Just the conclusion I've come to. Somethin' to chew on I guess.

Miscue, I mean NO offense to you for coming up with the software. If someone can come up with more efficient, better designed code, then MORE power to them! I'm sure your intent isn't solely a higher ROF. For that, I commend ya. You're just trying to improve on efficiency. Nothin' wrong with that in the least.

[Miscue]

Originally posted by homis
A little off topic, but to the developer of this software (Miscue I believe), what language do you write this in?

/C++ developer myself

Yup, like what was mentioned... all in assembly.