Newer Software??? 4.0???

[Carbon]

Miscue, just a heads up you probably know about regarding 4.0

DB set to 1 - 4

ROF up to 18bps

In pure E mode, after quickly walking the trigger the gun goes full auto, until i pull the trigger, or push the trigger forward. The gun is degassed and the safety is on. I can heare the solenoid actuating. Hope this helps

[Evil1]

Is this new software the version that Tom said would blow 3.2 out of the water? Also has anyone that has the beta version of 4.0 tried shooting with a nitro duck x-stream adjustable? If so, how was it? Did it keep up?

[USAF-Flyboy with a Mag]

Originally posted by Carbon
Miscue, just a heads up you probably know about regarding 4.0

DB set to 1 - 4

ROF up to 18bps

In pure E mode, after quickly walking the trigger the gun goes full auto, until i pull the trigger, or push the trigger forward. The gun is degassed and the safety is on. I can heare the solenoid actuating. Hope this helps

Carbon,
Mine did this also at the meet. I remedied it by upping the debounce. I latter found out the reason that it started going full auto on the lower debounce settings is because my battery was getting low. The new software drains your battery much faster then the previous versions. The high rates of fire now attained require more amperage to sustain it. On the way home I through it on the battery charger and the full auto on the lower debounces went away.

[USAF-Flyboy with a Mag]

Originally posted by AGDFlash
Is this new software the version that Tom said would blow 3.2 out of the water? Also has anyone that has the beta version of 4.0 tried shooting with a nitro duck x-stream adjustable? If so, how was it? Did it keep up?

My preset PE is supposedly set for 850. It was keeping up with the software, but I believe Tom said mine was the only preset that could keep up with it. He also said that if I really want to see what it could to...to get a good adjustable and set the pressure at 1000.

[Miscue]

Originally posted by Carbon
Miscue, just a heads up you probably know about regarding 4.0

DB set to 1 - 4

ROF up to 18bps

In pure E mode, after quickly walking the trigger the gun goes full auto, until i pull the trigger, or push the trigger forward. The gun is degassed and the safety is on. I can heare the solenoid actuating. Hope this helps

That's the exact same problem I have with Webby's XMag. I noticed that if I don't let go of the trigger all the way, it doesn't do it... well at least, I think.

At first I thought I had a bug, but I can duplicate this on 3.2 as well... so it's not the software. But I'm not sure why it does that. Reversing the wires = same problem except FA when the trigger is held - opposite. I tried a new HES, and it didn't matter.

I was going to look at this tomorrow, actually... because it's an annoying problem. What I was going to do is adjust the trigger length and the magnet to see if I can make the noise issue go away... I think they might be adjusted right at that perfect spot where there's a problem.

If you resolve this before I do, let me know. Otherwise I'll look at it tomorrow.

[Miscue]

Originally posted by USAF-Flyboy with a Mag


Carbon,
Mine did this also at the meet. I remedied it by upping the debounce. I latter found out the reason that it started going full auto on the lower debounce settings is because my battery was getting low. The new software drains your battery much faster then the previous versions. The high rates of fire now attained require more amperage to sustain it. On the way home I through it on the battery charger and the full auto on the lower debounces went away.

Urm... it should use the same amount of power because the solenoid dwell time is the same.

Like I mentioned before: The problem with the low battery and FA is: The HES requires power to send a logic high to the board. When power is too low, the solenoid steals power from the HES and logic highs get dropped to lows even though the trigger is held. Solenoid turns off, HES gets power... logic high again. And, the cycle repeats. This happens when the battery is almost dead, and is beyond not being able to fire the marker.

[lamby]

Miscue,

I was at AGD today, and they told me that your software has adjustable MROF and an adjustable debounce. Is this true? If this is true wouldn't the two settings directly affect the other? All markers that I have seen (alot of them) have either debounce settings (timmys) or MROF settings (angels)

either setting is a delay before another trigger pull can be reconized that is adjusted in miliseconds. If you have a debounce to 1ms then it will be ready to fire again in 1ms after the trigger pull. eliminate the mechanics, and we get a 1000sps limit (granted your dwell times and cycle speeed affect this too, but for the case of discusion lets for get those and use pure electronics. So electicly it will fire the solinoid 1000 times a second) but if you set your debounce to 10ms it can only shoot 100sps (again electronics only)100ms debouce is 10sps and so on. The 1.37 and 3.2 software, and the IR3 adjusted debounce via the MROF adjustment that then induced a delay based on that time.

ie 20bps = a delay/debouce of 50ms before another firing squence could be completed(including all the sequences that happen to fire the gun. (atleast another activation of the solenoid)) the problem I see is with things like the WAS board where it caches the shots at 1000 times/sec and then will allow then to fire when the sequence in complete known as shot buffering. lets say in 30ms or 33.333sps (the fastest non gassed timmy speed I have seen).

This is longer than I expected it to be, and prob more confusing than it should be, but what I am asking is your MROF adjusted via the soleloid dwell timing and the debounce only a delay on trigger read BEFORE the shot buffer counts shots and not tied into the actual firing of the marker? If so, SWEET, that is exactly what I had in mind for some software that I wrote in basic a while ago that I could not get to run right. (the atmel did not have the power i needed. I would have had to use a pic and the I/O lines were not compatible with the AT90S. So it was out.

[Miscue]

Originally posted by lamby
Miscue,
This is longer than I expected it to be, and prob more confusing than it should be, but what I am asking is your MROF adjusted via the soleloid dwell timing and the debounce only a delay on trigger read BEFORE the shot buffer counts shots and not tied into the actual firing of the marker? If so, SWEET, that is exactly what I had in mind for some software that I wrote in basic a while ago that I could not get to run right. (the atmel did not have the power i needed. I would have had to use a pic and the I/O lines were not compatible with the AT90S. So it was out.

Urm... it's not that complicated. You can have debounce and a MROF at the same time... working independently of each other. I have no idea what you're talking about with controlling the MROF via the solenoid dwell timing, as well as a few other things.

There's the debounce that's related with shot buffering, MROF time so buffered shots don't exceed this ROF, and a separate solenoid dwell time. The MROF has nothing to do with when a shot can be buffered. It has to do with how fast a buffered shot can be sent out.

[USAF-Flyboy with a Mag]

GO TO SLEEP MAN!!

[lamby]

oh, I see.

that is what I wanted to do, but never though of a delay independant of the solenoid.

BRAVO!!! soulds like something that I would love to have on my marker

[smilestyler]

Is anyone able to compare the performance between the 4.0 version vs. the morlock board?

[Duke of Lawnchair]

Originally posted by pbguy888
Ive just traded my viking for Gibbys Emag with 4.0. Does that mean I am a beta tester now?

Gibby, is this truey?!?!

[RoadDawg]

Originally posted by AGDFlash
Is this new software the version that Tom said would blow 3.2 out of the water? Also has anyone that has the beta version of 4.0 tried shooting with a nitro duck x-stream adjustable? If so, how was it? Did it keep up?

My 4500 flatline kept up at 20 bps full auto with no skipping or loss of pressure. It wasn't a software related problem but a mechanical problem. Still pretty cool.

[Steelrat]

AHAHAHAH The AKA shooters corrupted Gibby!

[Blennidae]

Originally posted by Steelrat
AHAHAHAH The AKA shooters corrupted Gibby!

...said the man who just picked up an Emag.