This is what Mag lovers in Manitoba have to deal with.......

[barberjohn]

hehe, i just pmed him the vid of z-man hitting 20 bps on his ule rt pro. i also told him to go to ao, and gave him a link. maybe now he will appreciate mags more.

[atm743]

hay

thats my gun wtf god i know the drop is long with the z but i like how the tank feels on my sholder. besides mags are the most duribal guns on the market

but hay thanks for closeing the thread!! that same guy pm'd me saying that he wanted more pics of my gun cuse it was soo sweet here is what he said his pbnation name is Drifters_06

Hey, I noticed that you had a z mag with a huge drop forward on it. I'm in LOVE!!! Can you send me some pics of you playing with it. I just wanna see how it sits. Thanks!

[RRfireblade]

Re: hay

Originally posted by atm743
thats my gun wtf god i know the drop is long with the z but i like how the tank feels on my sholder. besides mags are the most duribal guns on the market

HHHHhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

I'm sorry man,that's hysterical that they just happend to pick your gun.Nothing against your gun,if like it,that's all that's important.

Jay.

[Cryer]

Re: hay

Originally posted by atm743
...but hay thanks for closeing the thread!! ...

You're welcome

[atm743]

edit-hah! i know whos mag that is! i forgot his username, but he is getting a logic frame and his rail milled from coolhand. that mag looks pimp now. well, atleast i recognized the valve .

thanks i know that this is off subject but i am still getting that fill station from ya but later on short on $ and i dont have the scuba yet i was getting it last week but i never got it. thanks

[CDN_Balls]

Wow....

I dont know how you can say..."lets inform the un-informed"
I have been playing paintball for over 10 years now and like alot of people started out with a mag. I then advanced as the years went on because lets face it...your mechanical mag does not compete with some of the intimidators and angels etc.. coming out back in the time. Dotn even say the player makes the game, because you can come out for one snap shot with your MECANICAL mag, but i will come out with 10 more from my super powered timmy. I have been both players in this situation, and i like being the man with the machine gun Maybe for rec play your mag will be something to have some fun with, but when it comes to tournaments...get with the day. Yes all these new super mags are coming out, but why didnt they come out earlier? It shows that they didnt have the skills to manufacture/market a gun of high standards and capabilities. Also, why dont we see very many mags in the pro/am or any big circut for that matter? I know mags are their, but there does have to be a reason why people dont flock to them like timmys and trix's.

Oh and BTW...lets remember that this years world cup was dominated by canadians for the most part, me being one of them

[Fixion]

Quote from Lindsey from that forum:
"That is a nice drop forward it looks like a welded coat hanger that you made up?"

LOL, he said that about a KAPP cradle, what an idiot! Those canadians make me laugh .

[Chojin Man]

Re: Wow....

Originally posted by CDN_Balls
Maybe for rec play your mag will be something to have some fun with, but when it comes to tournaments...get with the day. Yes all these new super mags are coming out, but why didnt they come out earlier? It shows that they didnt have the skills to manufacture/market a gun of high standards and capabilities. Also, why dont we see very many mags in the pro/am or any big circut for that matter? I know mags are their, but there does have to be a reason why people dont flock to them like timmys and trix's.

I have a feeling that AO is about to "inform" you about that post

Welcome to AO by the way

[Cryer]

Welcome to ao... :-/

Originally posted by CDN_Balls
I dont know how you can say..."lets inform the un-informed"
I have been playing paintball for over 10 years now and like alot of people started out with a mag. I then advanced as the years went on because lets face it...your mechanical mag does not compete with some of the intimidators and angels etc.. coming out back in the time. Dotn even say the player makes the game, because you can come out for one snap shot with your MECANICAL mag, but i will come out with 10 more from my super powered timmy. I have been both players in this situation, and i like being the man with the machine gun Maybe for rec play your mag will be something to have some fun with, but when it comes to tournaments...get with the day. Yes all these new super mags are coming out, but why didnt they come out earlier? It shows that they didnt have the skills to manufacture/market a gun of high standards and capabilities. Also, why dont we see very many mags in the pro/am or any big circut for that matter? I know mags are their, but there does have to be a reason why people dont flock to them like timmys and trix's.

Oh and BTW...lets remember that this years world cup was dominated by canadians for the most part, me being one of them

So lets inform the uninformed. You.
First off, what does canada have to do with anything? who cares if you "dominated" the world cup? That is completely irrelevant.
Also, the speed at which you pull the trigger has very little effect on how well or fast you can snapshoot. (and besides, I dont think you grasp how extremly fast even a mech mag can shoot. There's a video around here somewhere shooting faster than you will ever shoot your "super powered" n00b cannon timmi.)

On to the "meat" (if you could call it that) of your post. Mags aren't prevalent in the tournie scene... Why?
To start off, almost all of the markers you see out there operate on or near the same level. Pro teams like Dynasty, Thunder, or Assassins dont shoot what they shoot because they like what they shoot. They shoot what they shoot because someone is paying them more to shoot that then something someone else can. Get it?
Now, when paintball began growing, all manufacturers shifted their marketing approach to what they believed would be the future of paintball. Some to speedball-type markets, others tended to stay more or less with the rec-play markets. AGD was one of the companies with the latter approach. Today, while AGD is still a successful business, they do not have they money to make an about face in marketing (do you know how expensive that would be?) and aim towards mainly the speedball/tournie scene, although they have come a long way, as you mentioned.

AGD has told us before that the main reason they dont sponsor teams (pay them to shoot mags) is because their company is not big enough to allocate all that funding to free guns for pro teams. Their budget cant compete with that of NPS or SP when it comes to marketing to pro teams.

It is my sincere belief that AGD has produced a faster, more reliable, more consistant, and more affordable marker base than anyone else has ever concieved. And I've shot'em all, I'm not saying that because I'm stubborn and ignorant, like you seem to be.

[CDN_Balls]

My Mag Friends...

All you mag lovers (not intended to be insulting) are just as bad as us timmy/angel/model 98/whatever else lovers. Everyone stands up for what "they" think is the best gun. This whole arguement is simply a matter of opinion and naturally, everyone gets their back up.

Now heres to my "meat" of the story. You say there is a MECHANICAL mag that will outshoot my electronic "noob cannon"? Your saying you can pull that trigger with your finger 18 times in one second all the while not having an electronic switch. You sir must be god. I will be the first one to say that even on any marker today...there is no way im clicking the trigger 18 times in one second, its called trigger bounce my friend, a fresh new part of the game.

You cant even tell me for a second that if Dynasty was offered full sponsorship for AGD to fire a mag and wear their clothing etc... that they would take it. Why? Because they (and everyone else) know that their is better stuff on the market. Lets leave the pro scene and we can go to the say novice scene, where teams aren't sponsored. How many mags do you see there? I was at world cup and i could count on one hand how many mags i saw in action. Why is this? I'm sure you will come up with "Oh, they are just ignorant and follow trends" Like ive said before, trends happen for a reason. I dont think people would just run and buy a 2000 dollar timmy because they think they were "cool"

The Canada thing was just for all you Canadian haters...like you all say, such a small paintball scene up here blah blah...well for a small paintball scene we are sure doing well for ourselves

Good Day!

[Cryer]

You cant even tell me for a second that if Dynasty was offered full sponsorship for AGD to fire a mag and wear their clothing etc... that they would take it. Why? Because they (and everyone else) know that their is better stuff on the market.

(not saying this to sound arrogant or anything), but what makes everyone elses stuff better than AGD's?

Again, its the money that talks. AGD cant shell out enough money for the high end teams to consider their markers.

Lets leave the pro scene and we can go to the say novice scene, where teams aren't sponsored. How many mags do you see there? I was at world cup and i could count on one hand how many mags i saw in action. Why is this? I'm sure you will come up with "Oh, they are just ignorant and follow trends" Like ive said before, trends happen for a reason. I dont think people would just run and buy a 2000 dollar timmy because they think they were "cool"

Not necessarily that they are ignorant and follow trends, but rather they respond to what they are more exposed to. The only mags they see are scenario and 'sniper' setups. All they hear about mags is "blender", "heavy", etc.
Since all they see are the flashy timmies and trixes of the pro circuit, thats what they go for. Not because of ignorance, but because its the easiest option to see.
And then again, alot of people are ignorant and they do give into the hype.

The Canada thing was just for all you Canadian haters...like you all say, such a small paintball scene up here blah blah...well for a small paintball scene we are sure doing well for ourselves

I dont hate canada

[einhander619]

The Canada thing was just for all you Canadian haters...

I doubt we have any Canada haters on this board, but you may change all that.

[NGp8ball]

:o i do......j/k

[the_next_guy_]

Re: My Mag Friends...

Originally posted by CDN_Balls
I dont think people would just run and buy a 2000 dollar timmy because they think they were "cool"

Believe me, just at my school, there are kids who buy timmies, trixes, and speeds their second time playing. Those are the same kids that drive escalades with spinners.

[RingOfScale]

"PS I'd like to see you try and get 17 bps with that exact setup... heh *cough revy *cough"

^^^ that guy's quote is funny ... ^^^

considering the fact that there is a warp on that mag that you cant c because of the grip frame hehehe