mags in the tourney scene... not the one that we usually talk about

[sneakyhacker420]

last night i was thinking to myself, why do peole complain about mags not being used in the tournament scene now-a-days

they were top-of-the-line back in the early 90's but now they've fallen to the staus of 'blender' despite the relase of the LX kit

this made me wonder... i don't see AKA guns like vikings and excaliburs being used in the large-scale tournament scene... so why do people always pick on mags?

sure AKA guns are fast and efficent, but they don't get used in many major events, and i don't see people complaining about how they rarely see an AKA gun at their field... much less in a tourney


trust me... i don't have anything against any mags... ask of tonight, i will own 4 complete automags - my newest addition to my family will be a Green X-Mag w00t! (i'm trading my dragon timmy for it)



anyways, back on topic:

why do people always pick on mags despite all of AGD's improvements upon them?

[Cryer]

ignorance

[sneakyhacker420]

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[Prairie]

Re: mags in the tourney scene... not the one that we usually talk about

Originally posted by sneakyhacker420


why do people always pick on mags despite all of AGD's improvements upon them?

They don't like the base gun that they are improving upon.

[sneakyhacker420]

whats wrong with them? you got the x-mag or ULE e-mag straight outta the box... well, tell me, what can you improve?

[headcase]

two things....

If you read AKA forums, specificly at PBNation, you will see people wondering why AKA markers are not in the tourny scene. A thread usually pops up bi-weekly. The main reason is the same as AGD's, AKA is a small operation, and they won't/can't put out the money to sponser a pro team.

The ULE E-mag and the X-mag are the improvements. The base platform being improved upon in the late 90's level 7 mag. It was around then that Mag's got the reputation as a blender, and that is the reputation that has stuck.

[Cryer]

An emag is a MAG, so is an XMAG.
When someone thinks of a mag, they think if all the pics they see with the stainless bodies, the stainless valves, the cut-apart carbon frames, home-made 2x triggers, etc.
AGD was a little late streamlining their marker line-up (imo, it still has a way to go), and thats what people look at.
Why buy a gun that, by all outward appearances, could double as a damn boat anchor? We, here at AO, are the vast majority af those who know the true quality and magnitude of the leaps forward AGD has come up with, not only for their own ,line, but the entire industry. The mags you see hear are both functionally and aesthetically amazing, although people outside AO dont go looking for that. They expect it to find them. And in many cases, it has, via Bob Long, Bud Orr, and others who have invested in high-visibility marketing.

What AGD has sorely needed ever since last decade, is a cosmetic overhaul. It seems like they've started in that direction, and I understand that they are a small company, but alot is left to be desired. The bodies and rails should be incorporated into one piece. That would cut down on tolerance issues between the 2 parts, I think, as well as look a hell of alot better. They also need to invest in better cosmetic finishing. they machined look of the ULE bodies and the I/Y-frames, and everything else is horrible, imo. They need to be polished smooth to a mirror finish. (and the triggers need to be annoed to match the rest of the gun, geez...)

Even still, I remain 100% loyal to AGD. I know the true quality of what can be made out of a mag.
I'm in the process of buying an all ULE Emag and I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I will be more than pleased with its performance.

[Prairie]

Originally posted by sneakyhacker420
whats wrong with them? you got the x-mag or ULE e-mag straight outta the box... well, tell me, what can you improve?

Speed...
Feel...
Smoothness...

All personal reasons why I don't own one :-P

[Cryer]

Originally posted by Prairie


Speed...
Feel...
Smoothness...

All personal reasons why I don't own one :-P

d00d, go read the norcal-socal pic thread...They're testing a new software 4.0 that they say was outrunning the regulators on some of the preset tanks they used
3.2 is fast as-is, but this will blow everything away

The trigger is adjustable for your preference, too. out of the box, its smoother than anything else i've messed with thanks to the magnet.



What do you mean "feel"? the shape of the grip?

[sneakyhacker420]

cryer said it...

i'd like to see any other valve on a marker recharge faster than the tank that's supplying it

[Evil1]

I think the only thing that could be improved a little is the efficiency of the mag.

[tony3]

The battery pack has to go, thats what is keeping me leaning away from emags. I have tried it in a game and didnt like it at all. I felt like I couldn't get a good grip on the gun, plus I think it makes it look really boxxy. I don't think we are going to see mags widely used as imps per say on the tourney scene for a good while.

[cphilip]

You guys were not around when Mags were known as the non choppers and Cockers were known to chop really bad. That was the scene back in the day. Yep. It's true. Ask some of the really old guys from back in the old tourney days.

[sneakyhacker420]

i've visited thoes days a few times... watched 5 or so old tourney videos with the all americans using their mags, shocktech with mags... all that good stuff... good times... good times...*voice drifts off*

[Grasshopper]

Guns get used in large tournaments because people are paid to use 'em, not necessarily because 'Gun A' is better 'Gun B'.