Drop Fowards

[The Action Figure]

Originally posted by tony3


Know why people still use cockers? Because WGP stayed with the times and kept updating there cockers. AGD didn't start doing good things for mags until 1-2 years ago. Maybe if agd came out with ule bodies, xmags, and lvl 10 3-4 years ago mags would still be alittle more widely used.

A lot of people on this forum have followed agd, even if they don't shoot there guns anymore they are like agd in many ways. AGD didn't start catching up to the times until a few years ago. A lot of the people on this forum still aren't caught up with the times. Its my opinion. Drop forwards are stupid. They don't even make sense. Learn to shoot your gun without one, no one is going to die without a drop.

Why the hell do you think so many mag owners and people on this forum in general want all mech. tournies? You can say anything you want about blah blah we don't want people shooting 18 bps at us, but the truth comes down to it, agd isn't the top dog anymore. The only way for them to become the top dog again is to have a mech only tourney. Mags I think are the best non-electro gun. But the emag is probably one of the worst electro guns on the market.

I of course thought I couldn't live without drops and camo was cool. I wasn't afraid of change and just ran my gun on a duckbill for a few cases. And believe it or not it wasn't hard for me to shoot my gun, I was getting less hopper fits, and I wasn't turning my wrist in circles to fire my gun. I support the better idea, and no drops is a better idea. People just can't realize that.

P.S. Mindflux, razors come in 2 lengths a shorty and a long style

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[Ross57969]

i have narrowed it down to three possibilities. A Dead on Bullet, CP MICRO, or a CP rail. Im not sure if the rail fits my gun though anyone know what i would need to get to set up a rail? Yes i realize these are three very different items, but they all seem to sit nicely.

[Gadget]

Tony3 - you've got a lot of opinions for a 14 year old. How long have you been playing....1 year? 2...max?

I don't think you're even remotely qualified to discuss the relative merits of the business practices of AGD and WGP.

I couldn't live without drops and camo was cool.

Most people made their choices on that issue in 1995. As I'm yet to see a pre-school paintballer I'm guessing that you've just got an over-active imagination.

[tony3]

I have been playing for 3 years, started then I was 12, so well like 2 years 360 days. Got my first gun for my 12th bday. I think I should just take my age out of my profile. Whenever I make a good point, people always say, oh well, you are only a newbie teenager. Whatever, I'm done here.

[~WarpedRT#2~]

Yes, lets all agree that you can use whatever you want, because it's all personal preference. The only reason I jumped on someone was because they said something stupid. Lets face facts. When you go to a field, where there are players with $$$, you will see trends in full effect. Back 2 years ago, you had everyone buying sock hats (I bought mine almost 3 1/2 years ago) people turning up the bottoms of their masks, people wearing their straight-shots on lanyards (which did work, and yes, I did that because it had a purpose) and people wearing knee/shin pads. That was cool. Now, you cant really find anyone who wears pads like that, people with their masks bottoms up, or even now, people with a drop. This is all a reflection of what the pros do. They know what you are looking at when they play. They know how to appear when the cameras start flashing. They are in it to make $$$ off of you. Do any of you have a concept of how much whats his face Chris Lasoysauce is worth? Too much, and you people are the ones tossing money at him.

[mark_426]

Please guys.. stop babbling. The guy wants an opinion, not a battle about whats "cool" and whats not. Whatever lets you play to your full potential, and play comfortably, is what you need... its all preference.
Some people like being able to move, and stay tucked in tight, and have a setup that is compact, others prefer theirs to be 2' long.
Say you shoot a lot and have a 91 ci bottle, I don't know about you, but I don't need 12" extra sticking out the back of my marker.
Personally, I had a DZ2, Med Shocktech, and a KO Lady drop. I tried using a duckbill before, but after I had to try to get my arms around the gun to play, I went back to the DZ3 I had at the time. Just try them out before you buy them.

If you're trying to post pics to show a difference, show two people in the same position.

Now.. quotes, and summed up opinions:

"Learn to use the gun without one" Why would you when you've got a smaller, tighter setup with one..

"It makes the hopper two inches higher" Why don't you just stop crying and use a warp or qloader?

"I wasn't turning my wrist in circles to fire my gun" Its called the Y grip, Logic Vert, Tarantula vert, Space frame, Z grip...

"Many pros still use cockers" Well they shave weight off, put bandaid electro frames on, and we can put new internals in.. wow its "new and improved," so lets buy it!

"I don't like the gun in my face.. I want it 6" further in front" My answer, you must shoot a cocker, and you need a few inches for the 786 parts to finish moving, spurting air, and clanking about.

I guess no external moving parts isn't cool either (tippmann a5, angels, mags?)? Little maintenance is the same way?

I give up

[RRfireblade]

Originally posted by tony3
I think I should just take my age out of my profile.

I'm not sure that's such a good idea.Your comments usually imply your much younger.

[tony3]

meh

[mark_426]

i had to post some comparable pictures, but I was alone and all I had was my digi and timer. sorry for the poor quality control as well, but heres the difference with my 68ci tank, reg, and rail on my speed demon.
with dz2


with a rail mount


the lines are from my eye to the middle of the tip of the barrel, and the second is parallel to the first, and starting at the top of my hat. the box contains the extremes to each. you can see the hopper (where it says evlution 2) is actually lower with a drop.

but, its your choice.

[Lethargic]

I use a rail with my 70/45 tank. Of course I just do it because the pros do it. There is no way I would do it because my tank is super short and I like the feel of it. I mean, why would a 17 year old be able to think for himself? I'm a child, and my job is to mindlessly follow the pros

I wear a headband too. Never mind the fact that the rest of my team has matching headbands and jersies. We all know I am just copying the pros around me. Us "kids" are just mindless followers and are totally incapable of independent though.

My point here is that the people who overgeneralize all young players as followers and mindless drones are WRONG. This forum is notorious for this idea, that older people (and some of the younger ones) can bash on the rest of us for doing what we like with our markers. The best part is that they follow up with the statement "Do whatever works best on your marker" Godd advice, but why did you precede it with a good bashing of MY choices? An example of this is when tony3 presents a point and Gadget immediately dismisses it on the basis that tony is "too young" to have a valid opinion. Now that is a great sign of maturity... Overgeneralizing is just as dangerous from either side of the argument.


And th end this on a somewhat lighter note: Remember, I'll be responsible when you're old and weak