Dynastys new marker.........

[Mindflux]

Originally posted by WARPED1
Nope, 10 and a half cases. 25000.
Diablo Hellfire mainly. Some RPS Advantage too.

WOW. When did 10.5*2000 = 25000?

12.5 cases = 25000 rounds. Unless you have cases of 2500 or something.

[lopxtc]

I have over 10 cases through mine also ... mostly El Tigre and Slam Ball ... not one problem.

Take care of the marker and the reg like you should and you wont see technical problems, just like any marker. Spent a day tuning the ROF to what I knew I could do with hopper I had, and eliminated user caused chops. Like I said no vision eye on mine so its not like I can set the ROF to some god awful limit and pretend that I could shoot that fast.

Not to mention its allot easier to push a button to adjust ROF then it is to degas the marker, remove the valve, play with springs, etc ... only to have the springs start to "break in" (wear) and have to repeat the process all over again.

Aaron

[WARPED1]

Originally posted by Mindflux


WOW. When did 10.5*2000 = 25000?

12.5 cases = 25000 rounds. Unless you have cases of 2500 or something.

10 cases at 2000 is still 20000 right? Or is there a new math?

[thei3ug]

Originally posted by teufelhunden
The way I see it is guns can't chop on their own. It takes the operator firing faster than the hopper can feed to cause a chop.

I'm sorry, but i'm gunna have to CALL on this one.

I'll give the obvious example. Ever hear of the Phoenix? I had one. If you began to fire any strings, it would begin to chop every ball in the rotating breech. Part of it was the ball detente system... it would index the balls as they fell through the feedneck, and another speculated issue was that it might "fire" the ball before the bolt was closed. CHOP CHOP CHOP by DESIGN!

Another easy is the automag... the powerfeed plug and the short nosed bolt were exchanged for a design reason... some users, no matter what, woulud always chop. Differences in the breech would cause trouble too. Some barrels just oozed paint. Remember the sheridan equalizer? Old blowbacks like spyders had a BIG problem with chopping, because blowby in the bolt. that wasn't a loader issue, these are all problems related to the feed system or mechanical operation of the gun. I'm just coming up with things that weren't due to "tuning."

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Knock yourself out,sounds like you really want to get it off your chest.

We're hear to listen.

Ok... I don't really own one, but here it goes.

"Man, mo-diggity, every time I take this stupid thing to the field all it does is chop at the chrony! And I have to lower the velocity to 250 just to get on the field, and my barrel is all slimy and i never get a good shot, only wings. I'm refilling my 45/114 every game and I don't kow if i can afford air costs anymore! Help, what should I do? I hear phantoms are the bomb pro gun, never chop and get great efficiency what kind of fire modes does it have?"

[RRfireblade]

None of the instances you listed are applicable to the '03 shocker.

As far as the Strange Shocker,I was at WC when they first arrived and they don't look like that pic.They looked almost stock except for a Strange logo milled where the shocker one was.All the other milling was internal to remove something like 1/2lb,and they came stock w/ vision.

They may be planning on changing to milling for all I know.

Jay.

[Joni]

I've heard about people having mad chopping problems with the shocker 03, but that's been resolved. All markers have problems in the beginning, and SP has made that a non-issue. I dont understand why people have such a problem with the design of SP-markers. They are perfectly okay. Their business ethics, on the other hand, we wont get into.

[WARPED1]

Originally posted by Joni
I've heard about people having mad chopping problems with the shocker 03, but that's been resolved. All markers have problems in the beginning, and SP has made that a non-issue. I dont understand why people have such a problem with the design of SP-markers. They are perfectly okay. Their business ethics, on the other hand, we wont get into.

You got it perfectly IMO!*CLAPCLAPCLAP*

[Joni]

Thanks. Good to know that someone else shares my opinion

[teufelhunden]

Originally posted by thei3ug


I'm sorry, but i'm gunna have to CALL on this one.

I'll give the obvious example. Ever hear of the Phoenix? I had one. If you began to fire any strings, it would begin to chop every ball in the rotating breech. Part of it was the ball detente system... it would index the balls as they fell through the feedneck, and another speculated issue was that it might "fire" the ball before the bolt was closed. CHOP CHOP CHOP by DESIGN!

Another easy is the automag... the powerfeed plug and the short nosed bolt were exchanged for a design reason... some users, no matter what, woulud always chop. Differences in the breech would cause trouble too. Some barrels just oozed paint. Remember the sheridan equalizer? Old blowbacks like spyders had a BIG problem with chopping, because blowby in the bolt. that wasn't a loader issue, these are all problems related to the feed system or mechanical operation of the gun. I'm just coming up with things that weren't due to "tuning."

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Ok... I don't really own one, but here it goes.

"Man, mo-diggity, every time I take this stupid thing to the field all it does is chop at the chrony! And I have to lower the velocity to 250 just to get on the field, and my barrel is all slimy and i never get a good shot, only wings. I'm refilling my 45/114 every game and I don't kow if i can afford air costs anymore! Help, what should I do? I hear phantoms are the bomb pro gun, never chop and get great efficiency what kind of fire modes does it have?"

I stand corrected.

[WARPED1]

Originally posted by Joni
Thanks. Good to know that someone else shares my opinion

I been saying that since the beginning, but most AO'ers are blinded by there own anti SP hype and Nazi bs.

[RT pRo AuToMaG]

Personally, I HATE SP, but I have to say I do love their products. They make great products, if they weren't good, then teams like Dynasty and the countless number of players that use SP gear wouldn't use it. The 03 Shocker is no different. Now, I have never shot one, but I have held one, and it has a great feel to it and it's extremely light, a Boomstick feels heavier then the Shocker. I have heard it was a gas hog, but so what? If it is so much of a problem, get all day air. Look at matrices, they used to be major gas hogs until recently when people started coming out with all the efficientcy mods for them, now they are one of the most efficient guns ever. It will just take some time for people to come out with parts for that. I'm pretty sure evolve has a bolt kit out for the shocker right now, or they are coming out with one if it isn't out yet. Anyway, that should resolve all gas problems, it sure did on the Matrix (it was something like 2100 shots of a fully filled 68/45 shooting 280 fps). If they can do that to a matrix, I'll be willing to bet the shocker won't be too far off.

Edit: 666th post, because I'm supporting SP in this post, the axis of all evil, in the paintball world anyway )

[WARPED1]

The few new bolt kits out for the 03 Shocker pretty much solve the efficiency gass hogginess of the marker. The marker weighs in at 1 pound 14 ounces without tank or hopper of paint.

[maglover52]

i didnt know they where shootin mags now? hmm tk got lucky in signin them he must have actually done a good buisness move!

[Lee]

i'd love to see valve schematics. any links?

[845]

They make great products, if they weren't good, then teams like Dynasty and the countless number of players that use SP gear wouldn't use it.

I dont think dynasty is using the shocker because its a good gun.