Apache's are shipping!

[sneakyhacker420]

temptation was too great... i'm ordering one tomorrow

[SpecialBlend2786]

nice! but i'm gonna wait for a review before i buy one. my AK still hasn't let me down anyway...

[sneakyhacker420]

just ordered a smoke apache after school today, i'll reveiw it on friday or saturday when i play

[logamus]

holy hell that place is really proud to sell ricos. i think i will wait to pick up a used one.

[dinger]

i dont want one

id rather have a TSA...

[sneakyhacker420]

you'd rather feed 14bps with a TSA instead of 18 with an Apache?

[dinger]

Originally posted by sneakyhacker420
you'd rather feed 14bps with a TSA instead of 18 with an Apache?

15bps

i musta missed the part somewhere that apaches are 18bps...

since those are 90$ now id REALLY, REALLY rather have an egg :o

[sneakyhacker420]

Originally posted by dinger

15bps

i musta missed the part somewhere that apaches are 18bps...

since those are 90$ now id REALLY, REALLY rather have an egg :o

the 18bps is on the warpig reveiw of the prototype Apache

and the apache is factory rated to 18-19bps


and an egg... you'd rather have something made of crappy plastic, has the worst lid ever, a neck that you have to sand, a battery door that breaks... and when it stops working... BE refuses to fix it/replace it?

Ricochet Deveopement, Inc. has better customer service than AGD for the love of god

before the o-ring shells, they would replace your rico shells simply if you oversanded your feedneck!

and when my rico motor burnt out, i emailed rico customer service, and they had a new one in the mail for me the next morning... i didnt even have to send my burnt motor back for them to inspect it


ps: the o-ring rico shells are the greatest invention EVER - no sanding... just a switch of o-rings

[kenndogg]

I would get one but damn those things are ugly.

[jtoothman25]

I emailed that company about my Ricochet AK once... I simply said that I wish to order the new version shells with the Orings, and all I got was a reply saying, "whats your address?" Two days later, I got my shells free. With about 15 orings free. I will never forget that. Would BE do that? NO. My lid broke on my Egg, and they said I have to pay for it. Sure its only 5 bucks, but its their fault in poor engineering. I will buy one of the new Ricochets because of their service to me.

[sneakyhacker420]

Originally posted by jtoothman25
I emailed that company about my Ricochet AK once... I simply said that I wish to order the new version shells with the Orings, and all I got was a reply saying, "whats your address?" Two days later, I got my shells free. With about 15 orings free. I will never forget that. Would BE do that? NO. My lid broke on my Egg, and they said I have to pay for it. Sure its only 5 bucks, but its their fault in poor engineering. I will buy one of the new Ricochets because of their service to me.

exactly... sure its $90, but that $90 will provide you with not only a loader, but infinite parts for that loader with wonderful service

[fire1811]

Originally posted by jtoothman25
I emailed that company about my Ricochet AK once... I simply said that I wish to order the new version shells with the Orings, and all I got was a reply saying, "whats your address?" Two days later, I got my shells free. With about 15 orings free. I will never forget that. Would BE do that? NO. My lid broke on my Egg, and they said I have to pay for it. Sure its only 5 bucks, but its their fault in poor engineering. I will buy one of the new Ricochets because of their service to me.

that is exactly the same thing that happend to me

great people them rico makers

[sneakyhacker420]

on-gun profile


LCD screen w/ game timer


new propellor - different from prototype (that warpig had) - flexible like an evo2's propellor




i tested it out with some Draxxus Blaze and it emptied a completely full hopper (with pressure on paint) in 10 seconds... with some half-arsed batteries that the LCD was reading 'low battery' with

it also has a new spring loaded lid instead of the plain old flip top ones w/o the spring to keep it open



definitely has my approval - was worth every cent of the $90 that i paid for it

i'll reveiw it after in-game testing tonight and saturday night, you'll get a reveiw on sunday

[fire1811]

awesome thanks
i have been waiting for this review
let me know how it works tonight

[SlartyBartFast]

From WARPIG:
"The Apache is not however, a force feed loader, it is still an agitating design. "

And 18-19 bps?!? How?

The WARPIG hopper test conclusively showed that anything relying on gravity tops out at 13bps and is really only reliable to 11.5bps.

Or is Apache going to borrow the WAS marketing claim of on-chip AI and being able to 'bounce' the paint with the paddles?

I don't know which is more pathetic. None of the regular paintball information sites testing ALL hoppers the same way, none of the manufacturers showing the same type of test (HALO could disprove everyone), or the fact paintballs are so quick to swallow any hype fed to them (manufacturers impossible claims of 18-19bps) and even invent some themselves (thinking this new hopper is force fed) to justify their rush to incinerate their cash as quickly as possible.


Agitating hoppers (original revy) were proven by WARPIG to be WORSE than a tube feed. All the software and fancy hype just barely allow them to OCCASIONALY go faster than a tube feed (the occasional 13 bps compared to reliable 11.5 bps).